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[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

This is oil company propaganda. Nuclear is needed to transition. All of their complaints are oil company talking points about nuclear. Their solution is "just do nothing cause there isnt tech out there tonheat water besides ff"

Almost all of these are totally fucking wrong.

[-] nala@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

"Their solution is "just do nothing cause there isnt tech out there tonheat water besides ff""

To be clear, the psl's solution is not to "do nothing", it's to overthrow the capitalist government and do massive state investment in solar, wind and other renewables.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 3 days ago

What about overthrow the capitalist government and do massive investments in solar, wind, other renewables and nuclear energy?

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

The biggest issue with nuclear (centralized and controlled energy production by a capitalist govt) dissapears without the capitalist govt.

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Thats cool and good. The grid itself will take more than 50 years to modify in a way that can handle the intermittent production of wind/solar. That gap needs to be filled by something other than fucking coal plants. 10 -20 to convert to nuclear saves us at least 30 years of FF emissions. The problem isnt sheer generation, . Renewables can make the power. its about generating or absorbing at the right times. Load and output are in a constant balancing act.

Long term yeah nuclear should be phased out and replaced with massive hydro lake batteries but policy that refuses to build nuclear now is just forcing coal/oil plants to be needed. This is why oil companies lobby all these exact same talking points.

[-] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hydro. There you go. We don't need nuclear we need a combo of renewables. Somehow it is possible do the top countries here just have an amazing magical grid? 70 countries with more than half from renewables https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_renewable_electricity_production

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

Geography olays a big role there. There are many places where the capacity of hydro needed requires more than is environmentally safe to dam. We would have to have gigantic mega projects to build new lakes and resivoirs. (Much slower and more labor intensive than building nuclear plants)

If nuclear doesn't fill the gaps it will be fossil fuels.In the current moment, an 'always no matter what' anti nuclear stance is just a pro oil and coal stance.

[-] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 1 points 2 days ago

How much resivoirs does denmark have? You just bought imto nuclear pro stance

[-] Lawn_and_disorder@hexbear.net 0 points 4 days ago

Nuclear is outdated, ineffective, expensive and dangerous. No its not needed.

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