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[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Philip K. Dick wrote a short story ("Autofac") in which autonomous, self-replicating factories continue to operate and produce goods long after a global war has wiped out most of humanity, and they eat up all remaining resources on earth in doing so. I worry that there's a system in which a few extremely rich people can continue thriving without involvement of most of humanity, and that they're (knowingly or unknowingly) moving society in that direction. Who needs the commoners when AI and algorithms can simulate them.

IIUC the calculation of GDP doesn't factor in whether the produced goods serve a human need - the system can in theory continue to optimize for ever-increasing GDP while every human on earth starves to death.

[-] Ageroth@reddthat.com 26 points 1 week ago

IIUC the calculation of GDP doesn’t factor in whether the produced goods serve a human need - the system can in theory continue to optimize for ever-increasing GDP while every human on earth starves to death.

There's an old joke I remember about economists and the GDP.

Two economists are walking through the jungle and come across a gigantic pile of lion scat. One turns to the other and said I'll pay you 100$ to eat a bite of that shit.
Being an economists and 100$ being worth a lot, the guy eats the shit and gets paid.
A little while later they come across a pile of rhino dung. The now richer economist turns to the first and offers 100$ for him to take a bite out of this pile. 100$ is again a lot of money so he does it and eats the shit.
As they're walking along, both picking their teeth, one turns to the other and asks "did we both just eat shit for nothing?" And the other days "of course not, now the GDP of the jungle has increased by 200$!"

[-] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Correct; GDP is a dumb measure, and even its inventor said it cannot be used alone.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah we need to be kept employed at around 94% (or at least not 100%) while we starve to death.

[-] fed0sine@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Check out The Forever Winter, it incorporates the autofac into its world building.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 1 week ago

Who needs the commoners when AI and algorithms can simulate them.

Being rich doesn't exist in a vacuum but only in relation to other people, meaning if only billionaires survive, they're not rich anymore. They need the poor majority.

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