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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 12 hours ago

The united states is an existential threat to all life on earth, and there can be no peace or security until it is dealt with

[-] Hotspur@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

Once you strip out all of the PR about democracy, freedoms, etc, the US really does fit pretty well as the single biggest threat to continued existence on earth: massive nuclear stockpile on a hair trigger, massive globe spanning network of carbon emitting and resource extracting enterprises, attempting to develop ai with minimal safeguards and autonomous weapons, etc.

There are other countries that do some or all of these things, but in aggregate, the US is, for now, gotta be the single largest threat. Possibly another country will take up this mantle in the future.

All that said, I’m not convinced at this point that it can be avoided. It may just be what happens one way or another with humans at these kinds of scales, or a natural progression of technology snuffing itself out. Doesn’t make it any nicer to contemplate though.

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

For the past 100 years it has been this way, too. Post WW2 the US went way down hill. I mean pre WW2 it was already extremely shitty, but somehow they managed to make a shithole country even worse.

[-] nomecks@lemmy.wtf 0 points 12 hours ago

We're all stupid monkeys. Don't pretend it's just one place.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

This is both completely downplaying the entirety of the human condition and also ignoring basically the entirety of modern human history, and you think you're smart for posting it anyway.

[-] nomecks@lemmy.wtf -2 points 11 hours ago

8 billion stupid monkeys, incapable of doing anything but fucking the planet up worse and worse.

[-] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 10 hours ago

Oh wow I didn’t realize that improving the world tangibly is just humanly impossible. Well on the plus side this means neither of us has to do anything or further educate ourselves in any way.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

This affected world-weariness about the tragedy of human nature is a form of ahistorical cope we learn to avoid the pain of acknowledging the amazing progress happening elsewhere while we in the empire are made to wallow in decay. If you point me to any specific problem whatsoever, I will happily trace how the US Cult of Capital either caused it or is making it worse.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

Just so bleak. Go out and make friends and build community and you'll see that most of us aren't stupid and most of us are capable of doing a lot if we organize together

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 8 points 11 hours ago

Look, I agree, but one cohort of those stupid monkeys is doing the most harm, and making things royally fucky for all the other monkeys. Not to mention everything else that lives on this rock.

this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2025
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