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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

It would drop some engagement, sure, but either side of the liberal/leftist divide already has enough people to sustain itself.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's because they feed off each other: the liberals throw lots of shit at the wall in the hopes of driving up their engagement from their large but inactive user base while the leftists engage on their own; this creates an environment where the tiny subset of the most active liberals are left alone w the leftists and theyre predisposed to hate tankies, hence the drama.

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Aren’t liberals and leftists the same thing? Everyone seems to agree that capitalism is bad, the government should provide more social services, our democratic leaders suck (but we should vote for them anyway because republicans are worse), etc.

Honestly Lemmy seems more like a circlejerk than a divide, the only divide I see is how far we need to go to fix/destroy the system. I don’t think I’ve seen a single conservative voice, which is pretty surprising considering Trump apparently won the popular vote, and I’d expect I’d at least see someone from the other side.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Liberalism is the ideological component of Capitalism. It supports things like private property and whatnot, so Capitalist ideologies typically fall under its umbrella.

Leftism is a broad anticapitalist categorization of ideologies like Marxism and Anarchism.

What you describe as "everyone" is the more progressive side of liberalism, but not leftists. Leftists go farther and say that to fix those issues, we need Marxism or Anarchism, generally.

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