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instance wars (lemmy.ml)
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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

If instance A and B block each other, can a user on instance C still see all the posts from B and A?

What worries me is the drop in posts if things fracture.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Given your concern. I would recommend joining a instance with as few defederations as possible and blocking instances yourself. You don't need a admin to determine what you want or need to see with your experience here on lemmy.

Block instances/communities/users yourself and make it how you want. Or not. It's your lemmy, use it how you wish. Peace.

[-] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

How might one/I find an instance with very few de-federations? What are examples of such instances. Thanks, and, just as you say, peace.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

You're already on one, to be fair, but the classic is lemm.ee.

[-] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

lemmy.sdf.org is a prime example imo

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

It would drop some engagement, sure, but either side of the liberal/leftist divide already has enough people to sustain itself.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That's because they feed off each other: the liberals throw lots of shit at the wall in the hopes of driving up their engagement from their large but inactive user base while the leftists engage on their own; this creates an environment where the tiny subset of the most active liberals are left alone w the leftists and theyre predisposed to hate tankies, hence the drama.

[-] knexcar@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Aren’t liberals and leftists the same thing? Everyone seems to agree that capitalism is bad, the government should provide more social services, our democratic leaders suck (but we should vote for them anyway because republicans are worse), etc.

Honestly Lemmy seems more like a circlejerk than a divide, the only divide I see is how far we need to go to fix/destroy the system. I don’t think I’ve seen a single conservative voice, which is pretty surprising considering Trump apparently won the popular vote, and I’d expect I’d at least see someone from the other side.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Liberalism is the ideological component of Capitalism. It supports things like private property and whatnot, so Capitalist ideologies typically fall under its umbrella.

Leftism is a broad anticapitalist categorization of ideologies like Marxism and Anarchism.

What you describe as "everyone" is the more progressive side of liberalism, but not leftists. Leftists go farther and say that to fix those issues, we need Marxism or Anarchism, generally.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Instance C is unrelated to A and B blocking each other. Why wouldn't it be able to see posts from either unless it was also blocked?

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Okay but in post A, people from B won’t chime in, and conversely for things posted to B.

I guess instance C can make posts where both people from A and B can chime in. So would people in instance A be able to talk to people in instance B in the instance C’s comment section? Cause A people don’t want to hear from B people.

So we would still see less active posts as interactions would go down.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

The users and posts in instance B are invisible to users in instance A. Regardless of if the messages are in instance C

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago

Yep. That's one reason I like the instance I'm on - I can basically see everything, and just block the stuff I don't want to see.

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Yes, and even if A blocks B but A posts something on a community from C, then B sees it but A won't see their comments under it

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