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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) by ShotDonkey@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 14 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Once you start getting real money, you start noticing how much is going to taxes.

Even though the net income is more money than you've ever seen in your life, and the meagre fraction that is going to welfare is abysmally small, yet was a true lifeline to you when you needed it mere weeks ago... it still makes your blood boil knowing you're not getting everything you feel you deserve.

Imagine that amplified x 10, and you can see how a CEO might feel that they're throwing tens of thousands a month on what they feel are undeserving recipients. All they see are the zeroes, not the percentage.

TL;DR - we all inhabit the same planet, but we live in different worlds.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 19 hours ago

This isn't directly related, but I hate when payroll programs show me a damn pie chart of how much money goes to taxes. I know what I yearly salary pre tax is and I know roughly what my paychecks are. I intentionally avoid math comparing the two.

But yeah, like you said, the bigger the amount you make, the more you're like "wait, I'm losing how much?"

[-] Metju@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Apparently, I'm a minority then. I do not earn "much" in the sens of making billions on the backs of spaghetti-monster-knows-how-many-ppl, but I make enough to comfortably get by, save sth, and donate money to charity (not to get tax exempt, mind ya).

Then again - EU represent, this might skew things a bit

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago

(You can deduct all if not a lot of the money you send to charity in your taxes. Everyone should donate the max amount, as the government practically covers it!)

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In the US at least this isn't really true, at least not in a practical way for most people.

Charitable donations are tax deductible true, but they are for most people covered under what is called the standard deduction, which is a standardized amount that aims to estimate would a regular person would be able to deduct from their taxes. The standard deduction is applied automatically and is $14,600. This means that if you don't do anything abnormal on you it taxes, your taxable income is reduced by the standard amount. For most people they wouldn't typically be able to find $14,600 in tax deductible expenses, so the standard is worth it.

The catch is that if you take the standard you cannot itemize, as taking the standard deduction is basically saying to the IRS "yea I donated here and there, bought some stuff for work, did this and that". Itemizing is listing out your individual tax deductible expenses (and justifying why they are deductible) so if for example you had a single year where you donated $20,000 you could itemize that instead of taking the standard deduction for a total reduction in income of 20k plus whatever you could come up with.

The other reason why that isn't really applicable is that a deduction is not a credit, that is to say, deductions reduce your total taxable income amount. If you deduct $1,000 (a 1k donation for example) that would have been taxed at 20% you will receive back from the IRS, $200. Meaning that you still had to pay $800 out of pocket for the donation that will not be refunded to you.

Deductions pretty much never result in getting more than the tax that you would have paid refunded. Even if youanahe to deduct more than you make, the resulting negative would just result in a carry over loss for the next year. You can effectively pay an income tax of 0 but it requires losses and other deductible expenses that are greater than your income, which means you didn't actually make any net income for the year (on paper and practically)

Other countries are different of course, but I wouldn't want someone going out and donating their life savings thinking they will get it back in tax season.

this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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