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this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2025
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I cringe every time their president or other politicians are talking about god. It's unbelievable how backward the US are in this regard.
Please adopt me.
Where is this magical place?
Scandinavia.
Varies state to state and city to city, but my city has the majority of that list… plus the freedom of speech is nice. When I read the news about people in Europe going to prison for comments online but getting slapped on the wrist for violent crimes I’m baffled.
Oh really? I would like to know which city is that so I can confirm, but I seriously doubt you have most of that list since that's regulated on state or federal level.
Also we have freedom of speech in Europe, but you obviously can't incite violence, the same is true in the US, going online and trying to get people to bomb a building filled with gays or immigrants is hate speech and will get you arrested in most civilized countries.
I gut upvoted you because I want to confirm your point of view, it resonates with me. But you are asking the guy to doxx himself for an internet argument, besides maybe where he lives isn't so bad and he wanted to express his sentiment.
Yes, I don't expect him to answer, even though just naming a city where you lived or have lived before is not doxxing yourself, it is personal information that I understand someone not wanting to share.
That being said, his claim was that his city had most of a list of things, you can't make that claim and not expect to divulge the city, he could have hidden the fact that it was where he lived or had lived before by saying "X city has most of that" which would have allowed him to give verifiable information about his claim without doxxing themselves. But as it is it sounds like the person who swears he has a girlfriend who lives in another country and has natural blue hair, but no one has ever seen her.
The thing is that the US also does not have 100% free speech.
You can absolutely get arrested in the US for shouting "FIRE!" In a crowded area.
Regarding punishment for violent crimes seeming low in Europe, that is mainly due to us focusing on rehabilitation rather than revenge. However change is comming, we are moving to longer punishments.
If I got to decide, we would have a system where we focus on rehab for the first X times a person commits a crime, when it has been shown that the person does not want to change, then they are put in containment prisons, they are less nice, and focus on containment firstly, rehab secondly.
Free speech doesn't not mean freedom from consequences.
Example. If you tell someone to kill someone else, and they do it, you will be charged with a crime. Free speech means that you can voice your views, and the government (not private corporations btw) is not allowed to restrict it. That's why you can still read Luigi's manifesto, or the Unabomber's. It's why you can still publish and read the Articles of the Confederacy, or the Anarchist's Cookbook.
The small brained “you can’t yell fire in a movie theater” argument so we don’t have free speech is the intellectual equivalent of Jeff Bezos is poor because he drives a ‘93 Honda civic.
Yet that is exactly your argument, that only the US has free speech because Europe puts people in jail for online comments, without regard to what those comments are, it's the equivalent to saying the US jails people for speaking in the movie theaters in the fire example.
Have you just come here from 9gag?