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[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The new union treaty should have been stopped based on the results of the referendum, which overwhelmingly supported the maintaining of the current federal system.

Soviet Union had a single referendum and it immediately caused a coup and destruction of the whole Union. No wonder they didn’t want to have them before lel

The soviet union was constantly under siege since its infancy. Its latter years were marked with reforms which took power away from the local level of federated democracy and liberalized many aspects of their society. At the end capitalist viewpoints were being printed and published in state run and paid for media. It died a death of a thousand cuts since ww2 killed so many of their rank and file best-disrupting their lower level democracy-, and Stalin's re-democratization efforts were cut short by his assassination.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The new union treaty should have been stopped based on the results of the referendum, which overwhelmingly supported the maintaining of the current federal system.

Huh? People voted for the NUT (heh).

"The referendum asked whether to approve a new Union Treaty between the republics, to replace the 1922 treaty that created the USSR. [...] The referendum's question was approved by nearly 80% of voters in all nine other republics that took part. However, the August coup attempt by hardliners of the Communist Party prevented the anticipated signing of the New Union Treaty that was due to take place the next day." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Soviet_Union_referendum

People voted for the treaty in the referendum, hardline communists stopped the signing because they didn't like it.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

This was the text (translated):

Do you consider it necessary to preserve the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as a renewed federation of equal sovereign republics, in which the rights and freedoms of a person of any nationality will be fully guaranteed?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, that renewed federation was what the New Union Treaty was supposed to bring about before being stopped. That's what they voted for.

Did you not read the article? It's right before that referendum text...

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Note the lack of citation.

Also yeah Yeltsin was a real hero, just don't ask what he did after he bombarded parliament, and don't ask why the US had to interfere in former USSR elections including the 1996 Russian election to make sure that nationalists and not communists won.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee -2 points 1 day ago

Note the lack of citation.

Do you think people just made up the referendum or are you under the impression it was about something else..?

They had already been negotiating a new treaty for a while and after difficulties with the republics Gorbachev put it to the people to gain popular support. What did you think the "renewed federation of equal sovereign republics" was about?

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