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combating the assumptions rule 👩❤️💋👩
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more adventures on rednote mostly because it’s entertaining how mad people get when i talk about it :3 /halfjoke
this was posted 12/31 btw so i don’t think “the mods haven’t gotten to it yet” is a real thing
#le is common in parallel to the anglosphere’s #wlw which i think is adorable
my number one qualm with little red book so far is there is no native translation like tiktok has. lots of google translate is necessary to get the social media to social :P
necessary disclaimer: fuck the CCP and all the real violence and repression they do. just want to give credit given where due, and so far here im just seeing a lot of assumptions with no evidence? so im gonna post what my experience is :) i welcome all to do the same
I'm interested in ensuring everyone has equal access to food, shelter, and healthcare
And many nations do all of those things better than China while retaining greater individual freedoms. We don't have to become authoritarians to achieve this goal.
We're already living in a single-party state that enslaves and murders POC and indigenous people with impunity, and which bars anyone remotely leftist from residency and citizenship to maintain the status quo. Not sure how that's better, but go off
I don't know what country you live in but we clearly do not reside in the same nation or state of mind if you believe what you claim.
Regardless Im not here to defend America. China being substantially less free by every metric than many other nations is an easily verified fact.
Ypu don't have to be authoritarian to meet people's basic needs. China chooses authoritarianism because it benefits their investor class nit because it benefits the working class.
I don't understand why anyone claiming to support liberty or freedom would back China. That's like joining the Los Angeles County Sheriff's dept because you want to fight back against gangs.
China being less free *by every metric invented by econbros in Western Imperialist Nations
And I'm not supporting China. I'm simply saying we're in no position to be throwing stones.
No the metrics for freedom aren't invented by economists but are determined by political scientists. I think you're demonstrating a common failure in Leftists who are self educated in leftism in that ypu have reactionary responses to situations you aren't informed on.
What metric are you taking issue with? Self determination is always the biggest one and Chinese citizens do not have this. If the masses wanted to pursue Communism harder and Xi did not (and he does not) they don't have this option. Not being able to decide the direction of your nation is a significant sign of oppression.
You do not have equivalent rights under the law as gay people because you cannot marry and domestic partner rights are less than married. There is no path to LGB+ marriage. I'm just not as equal in China.
Do we need to address freedom of speech? You have more in most nations than in China.
Look at that 3 major freedoms none of which are economic and all of which China is just bad at. You started everything repeatedly suggesting I bought into propaganda and Im hoping you see how much propaganda you are accepting uncritically here.
Anyone: "Did you know in China they have this cool thing? Just an interesting cultural difference I thought I'd share. Making new friends and learning about the world on this app is so cool :)"
Someone inevitably: "So you know that as we speak Chinese citizens are being forced at gunpoint to do their hourly salute to the east in honour of Xi Jinping, right? 🙂 And also that they hate you? 🫣 Did you know what they hate you oh my god they hate you so much and are plotting this very moment to get a hold of your ebay browsing data (like all the other american tech corps but wtv 🙄) to undermine our righteous american way of life (which has its itty bitty teeeeeny tiny flaws 😬) but is clearly superior in all ways to China's constant brutal day to day moment by moment–"
I really hope you start to deconstruct the McCarthy inside of you. Best wishes to you.
Do you not see how much of a non-response you gave? It's a strawman. At no point have I made any untrue statements. Please try to demonstrate how not being able to decide the direction and philosophy of your government in any meaningful manner makes you free.
I hope you realize how illogical your arguments are here because you aren't making any coherent point other than demonstrating a lack of real education on these subjects.
Scariest stories. Try not to get Red Scared.
Are you capable of having an informed adult conversation? You seem to be struggling with your ability to respond intelligently. If you really think you have a valid point to make then do that. If you can only respond in pre-drafted talking points you picked up from the internet consider not replying and maybe read a book.
fir fucks sake you think economists are the ones making lusts of what constitutes freedom
This is a shitposting sub, and you are a tar pit
You didn't start off talking this way. You shifted to it when I challenged you in ways you normally aren't for example by pointing out the many ways in which China has abandoned leftist ideal by supporting an investor class and exploiting the working classes to enrich the elites. You don't have a built in reply because you're used to arguing talking points not having to actually think.
You seemed to actually be capable of thinking so it is sad that you made this choice.
Yeah I'm so owned right now