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I’m disappointed that they clearly don’t. The same tired justifications which amount to the ideals of Star Trek are a luxury made possible by hard men doing bad things in the dark.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Reading the article, Section 31 seems great if you just want to just shit on everything else in the franchise. Nope, not for me.

[-] mina@berlin.social 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@toast

I mean, in DS9, section 31 were clearly villains, right?

Not heroes in the shadow. This is what they told themselves in order to justify their shit.

@ThirdMoonOfPluto

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 12 points 1 day ago

Villains or heroes isn't the issue. It's the argument that we need a group that doesn't play by the rules that apply to the rest of society that I find problematic.

Shouldn't we strive for a world in which the rules really do apply to all? Can't we hope to conceive of a set of laws standards by which we should all be judged? Isn't the world of Star Trek meant in some way to be aspirational, rather than just a reflection of what we have now?

We live in a world that has ~~walls~~ federation worlds, and those federation worlds have to be guarded.

Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Barclay?

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