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New Poll Recommends Eating the Billionaires
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The democrats know all these things and don’t care. they’re just as much in service to the billionaires as the republicans.
They'd rather lose to Republicans than cross their "donors."
The gravy train runs to both parties as long as they protect this sociopathic grift of an economy from the people it enslaves. The DNC would consider winning on a platform of ending oligarchy (which could only ever happen with a left wing populist that steals the party out from under them like Trump did to the GOP, solely to steal their grift machine in his case) a catastrophic defeat and national crisis on the level we wish they'd treat Trump like.
It's why leaders like Nancy Pelosi make it their mission to sabotage spoiler members (because both parties promote on the basis of being a good bribe getter and taker) like AOC. She spent weeks before Trump was inaugurated making calls to prevent AOC's committee leadership bid. There's the DNC's priorities.
Our whole captured government is a game of neoliberal/fascist-good cop/bad cop. Do you want to waste your life enriching sociopath would be pharoahs with affirmation ribbons or scapegoats? A con game we can't stop playing as we're exploited dry.
Liberals don't care. Socialists / progressives do care. Bernie and AOC have consistently fought to expand class consciousness and to fight against the growing wealth disparity
The "liberals" you speak of are just conservatives larping as liberals
The word for a liberal that cares about class consciousness is "Error: undefined. Did you mean socialist?"
I’ll give Bernie a pass although he’s a milquetoast ineffectual social democrat. AOC is a fraud.
You know, I see people like you saying this stuff and I guess I don’t understand it. WHO are you advocating for to do the thing(s) you want? I would like specific names you would put forward.
I’m not politically educated enough to know who these others are that someone like you would recommend, but I do see a lot of complaining and not enough solutions being presented so that someone like me could learn about them.
People can complain without giving a solution. Just because they don't know what the way to solve it is, doesn't mean they have no right to air their grievances
Unless of course, you also want to control their free speech and dissent from the party is seen as abhorrent for you
I never said I want to control their free speech. I said I wanted to know what their solution was because they are complaining about the solutions that are currently in play.
Someone can absolutely be angry and if there is no solution known and you just need to rant, then just…say that? At least I understand that line of thinking of knowing there is a problem without knowing the answer, but at least admit that.
Anarchism. I have zero faith in government and my beliefs have only gotten stronger and stronger as I’ve gotten older.
There’s no one in government I trust. AOC is neolib larping as a progressive/ social democrat. They’re all still liberals and don’t actually threaten capital.
Thank you.
I don’t personally think anarchism is the right thing based on the definition of anarchy but I get your line of thinking. A legit real, physical resistance is probably needed.
I have zero faith in our American government as well. They want to status quo and don’t want to give up their power.
There are many different kinds of anarchy, I can assure you the common definition of “chaos” is inaccurate.
And anarchy is achieved by complaining about all government options online?
And what is achieved by voting for democrats? Fascism?
It's a small action to help less get fascism. It's arguably more effective than manifesting anarchism
Well you failed, you got just as much fascism because liberals create the conditions that enable fascism and do nothing to stop it because that would offend their capitalist donors. Read a history book instead of smugly scolding the left for your failures.
Good luck with your strategy of ... checks notes... doing nothing
It's honestly amusing
Good luck with your strategy of voting harder seems to be working out great for ya shit lib.
Kevin Phillips, the Republican architect of the "Southern Strategy, has a vastly different view. He essentially said, in his book, "American Dynasty", that Republicans think of the working class as dirt to be used however they royally please, while Democrats at least acknowledged that the working class enabled them to be where they are and supported them.
BYTW, Kevin Phillips, who is very politically knowledgeable, is now extremely disillusioned with Republicans and generally hates both parties.
Maybe that was true in 2004 when it was published but it is no longer true. Both see the working class as dirt.
Controlled opposition.
But still better than whatever is happening now. I can't imagine a Nazi salute at Kamala's inauguration.
True, liberals are the lesser evil compared to neocons and fascists.
But the top 100 richest billionaires grew their wealth by 63% under Biden so liberalism still inevitably leads to extreme wealth disparities that erode democracy until neo-feudalistic oligarchy is all that will remain
I generally avoid painting them all with a single brush like that.
Some absolutely are bought off like you describe. But an awful lot are not — the big problem we've had is that the contingent of the bought off Democrats plus the Republicans has been enough to block meaningful action, even when the Democrats have had a nominal majority.
I’m tired of the excuse making for them. It’s like sitting at a table of 10 Nazis. Guess what? It’s 11 Nazis.
The last 3 elections have shown there are only two groups: Republicans and Republicans that get paid less.
I feel like they get paid just as much only put on a fucking costume and pretend to be something they aren’t.
But thank you for your sane comment in a world of complete fucking insanity and denial about what’s really going on.
Fortunately there's other parties
As it stands, third-party will never win in the US.
Fortunately we can change the election system to be democratic. Maine did it years ago, for example
Good luck with that on a federal level. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans will risk losing an inch of power.
Luigi has entered the chat
That I voted for despite the fact they’ll never get an ounce of power