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[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anarchy and Communism are not the fucking same, what a retarded meme

To anyone offended, Go watch "The Ringer"

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

They have the same basic endgoal. Also stop using the r word.

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[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Stay classy with the slurs friendo

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[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

As an anarchist-communist, to me they're pretty darn close.

Abolish capitalism, smash the State.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Good luck teaching that difference to the typical 'murican

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Let's get to work sweat

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago

There is overlap especially when you don't confuse communism as the broader framework with state communism or even worse soviet communism.

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Have you read "On Authority" by Engels?

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I have, its a terrible "rebuttal" of anarchist criticism of marxism, conflating self-defence with authority.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

That is the thing though, until you abolish class contradictions states are the most effective way of protecting the revolution and suppressing the bourgeoisie. So authority does equal self defense in a real, meaningful way.

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

No, since states can get couped. The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The most effective way of protecting the revolution is gathering the masses which can happen without the state, indeed, it has happened multiple time throughout history.

Could you point to examples?

[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Anarchists in civil war in spain (until some of them decided to fuck off), I would say the makhnovshchina defended itself pretty well with the scarce resources they had, greek anarchists with their decades old squats, bolivian grassroots movements who helped Evo Morales get in power in Bolivia, etc.

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

And the fact that Engels wrote it proves that there were people in the movement even in those early days who disagreed.

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I have an idea of what a state is, but what's a "soviet"? That's not an English word.

What does "soviet" mean in Russian?

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know you're being cute but "soviet" is indeed a word in English: http://dict.org/bin/Dict


  Soviet
      adj 1: of or relating to or characteristic of the former Soviet
             Union or its people; "Soviet leaders"
      n 1: an elected governmental council in a communist country
           (especially one that is a member of the Union of Soviet
           Socialist Republics)

And it means what I intended it to mean, the official state ideology of the USSR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology_of_the_Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

[-] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

That sounds bland, I like the idea of council communism better.

How do you say "council communism" in Russian?

[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

The meme isn't stating that they are.

[-] maniacal_gaff@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well to be clear, the "joke" is that the blue hat doesn't know the difference.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

nice l77tspeak bro. You must be a genius hacker who's so much better than those r-words right. Such a super special boy who knows how use a torrent. Most of those normie r-words don't even pirate bro.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

nice l77tspeak bro. You must be a genius hacker who's so much better than those r-words right. Such a super special boy who knows how use a torrent. Most of those normie r-words don't even pirate bro.

Sure am, yyyaaarrrr

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is still overlap in the societal aspects, just not the governmental aspects. Mostly because anarchy has no government. That's the point. People can still choose to work together and basically create a communist society, without any enforcement from a government. Unlikely, but it's not impossible.

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