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Help with Decluttarr
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this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2025
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It would be easier for you to just learn docker. It's not complicated. Just do it.
Especially with anything requiring Python. I also isolate anything using node.
Not OP. I'm willing to learn Docker, but I just can't get it going. My machine is permanently connected through nordvpn, I use meshnet to access it from other devices if I'm not on local wifi. The docker + VPN doesn't work. Docker fails to download anything from docker hub, every request times out. Any instructions to bypass it looked very difficult, manually editing subnets or something, I feel uncomfortable with. Disabling services, then disabling VPN, then installing docker stuff and then restarting services and VPN also seems silly. I got lots going throught dietpi (many nicely embedded services), though it's holding me back for example from running jellyseerr
I guess I must be stupid, because I've tried a few times and never understood it. I tried projects like DockStarter.
You don't need to build a docker container from scratch, you just need to run one. It's infinitely less complicated.
https://youtu.be/DM65_JyGxCo
I have a system that's been working well (except for this new thing I'm trying to add) for a couple years now. I am not looking yo replace it with docker (something that I have failed with in the past). Maybe next time my system breaks I'll take another look at docker.
Docker doesnt replace your current system. It just runs containers (which act like a separate system)
You can also try podman which wont silently rewrite your firewall rules without telling you... I'll never forgive docker for doing that
I think your failings with docker stem from a complete lack of understanding. It takes little to no effort and will replace nothing. You're causing yourself a lot more work, not just now but also in the future, trying to do things the way you are. It shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to install docker, docker compose, and research the setting you need to add to a compose file before running it. At that point you're done, no dependencies, no maintenance. Need to update? Pull the new image and relaunch the container. Takes seconds.
I can't imagine trying to wrap my head around python dependencies and venv when docker seems a bridge too far.
Yes, complete lack of understanding. That is a problem when it comes to working with something. I don't understand python and venv either, but I got it working anyway in about 10 minutes. My experience with docker is that it had too many moving parts, particularly when it came to networking. It obviously seems easy to you and lots of other people, but it hasn't come easily to me. I'll probably need someone in the room with me to ever understand it.
This just tells me you must be trying to build a container instead of just running a ready made one. That's what I mean by the complete lack of understanding. And in response to your previous comment, I doubt you're stupid. You're just clearly misguided on this subject. Save yourself all the headache and learn how to launch a docker container. It's even easier than what you've just tackled. I believe in you.
I appreciate your confidence (and your docker evangelism), but I don't have the bandwidth to tackle a docker project right now. I don't believe I was ever building containers, as I was leveraging projects like DockStarter designed to make things more painless. I'm sure I'll try again sometime, but that time isn't right now.
My dude, I understand your unwillingness, but docker is just a fancy new way of saying "install apps without it being a major PITA". You just find the app you want on docker hub or some other docker repo, you pull the image, you run it, et voila, you have a container. No worrying about python suddenly breaking, or about running 5 commands in a row to spin up an app (I used to do this, including the whole python rain dance, to run home assistant. I feel stupid now).
Decluttarr actually has a section to set up their container:
https://github.com/ManiMatter/decluttarr#method-1-docker
It's step by step, all you have to do is get docker installed on your machine, then copy paste that text into a file, and run the docker command mentioned in the same directory as the file.
Trust me, you want to learn this, because after the first 15 minutes of confusion, you suddenly have the holy grail to self hosting right at your fingertips. It takes me all of 5 minutes to add a new service to my homelab all because it's so easy with docker. And it's so ubiquitous and popular! TrueNAS SCALE uses docker for all its apps, the idea of containers essentially reshaped Linux desktop to be what it is today, with flatpaks and all.
Homie, I have been there. I spent days. I found it confusing. I don't recall all the details, but I wasn't able to get it all working. I will try again some day.
Take it from someone who is a Linux noob and Googles for terminal commands every time, and whose most used keys are ctrl c, ctrl v...
Don't do this on your main server. Use some old hardware or a cheap VPS to practise on.
The main skill I need is googling and asking AI. It's that easy.
I've been using Linux daily since 2007 (Ubuntu Feisty Fawn). I've learned a lot, and there's some things I've never learned. Docker is one of those things that has been a problem. I also don't do a bit of programming.