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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

For home automation, Matter/Thread has the potential. We’ll see over the next five years, but yes market forces can make a new standard work

Reasons I’m hopeful

  • this is the first time major companies are involved: Apple, Google, Amazon agree
  • first time home automation hubs “just happen”, with the millions of people who have Echo, Google Home, Apple devices
  • small companies that dominate home automation seem to realize the problem of the market can’t reasonably expand without interoperability and ease of use

Matter/Thread is the new kid on the block. Will it be yet another home automation standard, or will it gradually replace the previous ones? We’ll see.

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

My guess is that the speed with which new device types are supported is too slow to make it truly revolutionary. It was a good idea, it just does not happen fast enough to become dominant.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Definitely a problem - but the positive side of that is the slow pace is from reaching a consensus. It’s easy to be impatient with how slow the rollout is going but if that means that most manufacturers of each type are on board it could still be a good thing

[-] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Let's hope so, I would love that! It is so frustrating shopping for new Home Assistant gear, finding something nice and then realizing it uses FlooSnorb instead of zigbee or wi-fi or bluetooth or whatever you already have. And yeah, sure, you can buy a controller for that, and there is probably an integration for that for HA, but damnit....another one? 😁 ™️

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

At this point i already support the most common protocols in HA, so i really hope for the end of WiFi, and vendor specific portals

Matter/Thread

i still think IP based smart home kit is a mistake. The internet is already such a big vuln, we don't need a shit ton of garbage sitting on the network only making it more vulnerable.

communication standards like zwave, and zigbee, are preferable here. It looks like at least one of those supports it, but perhaps both will be protocol agnostic.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Think of Thread as Zigbee with an IPv6 stack. It’s a local communication standard but with a compatible protocol.

I was excited that my current phone has a Thread radio so it can be on the local network for presence and control. Unfortunately not supported yet.

I’m definitely worried about the recent Matter standard for internet access. They say it’s optional, but that capability is easily hijacked by unscrupulous vendors.

  • my thermostat has cloud functionality that I want, so I’m fine with the option of giving them internet access
  • my air purifier requires internet access to report back to a vendor-specific portal filled with advertising. I’m not ok with that tradeoff so don’t use any smart functionality.
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