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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 96 points 1 week ago

So did we design a system that only rewards psychopaths and rapists? Because it seems like anyone with any ounce of power is a psycho, a rapist, or both.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 week ago

yes. that's what the feminists been saying since at least 1848

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Are you picking 1848 at random or is there something significant in the history of feminism I should know about?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

Seneca Falls Convention. by many it is viewed as the first women's rights convention in an official capacity.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

i always want to think that happened after the US civil war and not before it

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

america has a rich history of people taking significant risks to plant trees for future generations to rest under. the woke mafia today being criminalized for existence is just a modern expression of this. we will take significant risks for our own wellbeing as we enter this new era, just as we had before. we won't be enough right away. we never have been before. but we will be enough to pass this history on to the future generations who will rest in that shade we so desire

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago

Yes, capitalism rewards sociopaths the most, as they are the most willing to exploit other people for profit.

[-] lewdian69@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

All systems so far for the entirety of human history have rewarded psychopaths and rapists as far as I can tell.

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It sounds like you're really pessimistic regarding humans and their systems.

Are you in a friend group that rewards psychopaths and rapists? Have you entered relationships where psychopaths and rapists have been rewarded? If so, do you know about scaled evolutionary approaches, and how it's a good idea to join groups where your own incentives are aligned with that of the group? Do you know about the Duluth Model and CBT's 5% reduction in recidivism of abuse, as well as ACT's 30 to 70% reductions in recidivism of abuse (depending on whether people join voluntarily or not)?

Those systems (the Duluth Model, CBT, and especially ACT) are not rewarding psychopaths. They are transforming people into reflexive and non-abusive people.

Sources:

(sorry for the paywall; many academics are happy to send you a free copy if you contact them).

[-] gitgud@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

In essence, psychopaths and rapists are by their nature inclined to desire power over others since they're intraspecies predators. Any system that permits them significant power over others will inherently attract them. Like Capitalism, for instance.

[-] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

If you have basic morals you probably wouldn't ever be in their place, so probably yeah

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't say it only rewards psychopaths and rapists, but it does take a specific type of person to be at the very top of the all time rich people lists.

The character traits often used to describe those types of people often align pretty closely with regular psychopaths except these ones are ultra wealthy and therefore harder to shut down because of their massive wealth and influence.

Poor psychopaths can't get outta nearly as many situations by just throwing money at people so they tend to get caught by the system.

All that being said there are "good" rich and powerful people but they aren't narcissistic or egotistical so they tend to fly under the radar and not catch my much media attention.

I know Myspace Tom isn't considered ultra wealthy as he only has a piddly couple hundred million dollars, but the guy made one of the most influential early social media websites and then sold it and dipped out of the public eye entirely. Now he does photography and just lives his life.

We need more Myspace Toms and less Elon Musks.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

Basically, yeah.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

It is simply bias. How much do you hear about those that are perfectly normal? Those that specially do not want to be in public but live their lives in privacy?

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Dunno man, there was a time I didn’t know who Sam Altman was, and he still did those things.

EDIT: I suppose an allegedly is in order at this point

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