The federation drama really drives home the fact that liberals despise anyone and everyone with better politics than themselves. They want a monopoly on "being good" and being shown up enrages them. (hexbear.net)

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Every liberal does it too, from center right radlibs to far-right "conservatives": the most extreme right fringe liberals hate the mainstream liberals for not being bigoted enough, the mainstream libs hate the radlibs for not being cruel enough, and the radlibs hate the left for not being chauvinist enough.

Denouncing chauvinism in particular is like a liberal moral event horizon, a cardinal sin against their self-interested belief in the righteousness of the imperial hegemon that keeps the treats flowing at gunpoint.

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[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

for any lib lurkers, i recommend reading liberalism: a counter-history by domenico losurdo

In this definitive historical investigation, Italian author and philosopher Domenico Losurdo argues that from the outset liberalism, as a philosophical position and ideology, has been bound up with the most illiberal of policies: slavery, colonialism, genocide, racism and snobbery.

Narrating an intellectual history running from the eighteenth through to the twentieth centuries, Losurdo examines the thought of preeminent liberal writers such as Locke, Burke, Tocqueville, Constant, Bentham, and Sieyès, revealing the inner contradictions of an intellectual position that has exercised a formative influence on today’s politics. Among the dominant strains of liberalism, he discerns the counter-currents of more radical positions, lost in the constitution of the modern world order.

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

The English translation reads really weirdly, or at least the one I have. I've never felt so often that I've lost the beginning of a sentence by the end of it. But it's worth the effort, once a thread starts getting pulled it becomes easier to grasp where the sentences are going and gets a good flow

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I read it in Italian and having then seen the English translation is does seem like the translator was not going for maximum clarity.

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Lol agreed, definitely a translation attempting like a word for word/as close to the original wording as possible. My brain can think ok in romance language structure but not if the words are english. Still glad it exists and it's not like I could do better from Italian

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

slavery, colonialism, genocide, racism and snobbery

What's that song from Sesame Street?

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

I'm reminded of that Bo Burnham song, How The World Works

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've had parts of that song stuck in my head for like a year now, particularly the verse:

And private property's inherently theft
And neoliberal fascists are destroying the left
And every politician, every cop on the street
Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite

it's very funny how he turned from Funny Internet Guy #4812 to a communist and probably the only actually good video essay I've ever listened to dealt with him and the views in that video are a core jigsaw piece in my personality and thinking