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Trump Sparks Constitutional Crisis, Seizing Budget Authority from Congress
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this post was submitted on 28 Jan 2025
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I think people are underestimating the seriousness of this action. He is effectively turning the civil service into his personal servants. Does congress even have a say in government anymore if this is allowed? Do the courts?
If Trump can effectively order government employees to do anything under threat of firing or worse, then is our situation meaningfully different from autocracy? This is an absolute emergency and I think people are not seeing the bigger picture here.
We need a plan to fight back against this, and I want to ask everyone to participate in whatever capacity they can. And please don’t give me any “ThE pLaN wAs VoTiNg” replies. We lost the election and we need to move on from this learned helplessness and figure out what comes next. We don’t have time to wait until the next election to fix this.
At this stage it will be challenged in the US courts as it is apparently unconstitutional and also illegal.
Supporting non-profits that use the legal system to hold the government to account is the way to go for now.
Also the scope of this remains unclear - it's possible that it will blow up in Trump's face when all the schemes that directly benefit voters disappear, including potentially medicaid. So everyone just needs to keep reminding people that "Trump did this" - make him own the shit that is coming.
Maybe. That is my main hope currently that the courts will at least pause this until it can be sorted out. But what then? Will the Supreme Court actually stand up to Trump even if this is clearly illegal? What if Trump just orders his flunkies to ignore the court orders? This is what I mean—we need to be ready for these possibilities.
I agree that supporting legal fights is a good idea but we need a diversity of strategies here. Mobilize on the streets. Contact congress, especially republicans and point out how this harms their constituents. Support federal employees in organized resistance against this takeover. And be ready to take more disruptive actions if they become necessary.
I am also afraid that many republican voters are too deep in the groupthink to see out of this. Trump can just make up some reason, no matter how flimsy or absurd that their problems are caused by the left and most will believe him. So I am not depending on them to save us, though we should be ready to work with any who will fight with us.
But ultimately I think the time of waiting for someone else to save us is over. It’s each of us or it’s no one.
Nah. What i think alot of people are missing is none of this is about the economy or politics. What happened is white folk got their tribe back. They won't give a shit as long as he's making America white again.
I for one hope the Chinese do better in their upcoming days and years as the global superpower than we did.
They won't
The Chinese are objectively worse. We're in danger of slipping into autocracy. They have had it for decades.
IDK despite Chinese authoritarianism they attempt to improve the quality of life for the population. For example healthcare was very poor for a nation as wealthy as China at the turn of this century. The party spent time and money to increase the availability of care and the quality of the average citizen’s care has gotten much better in the last 10-15 years.
Any country as xenophobic as China will never be a true global leader. Say what you will about America and our racism problem, it pales into comparison to China’s “Han or bust” stance.
im not sure China will be objectively worse than Trump’s America though which is my point.
When your organs are harvested to keep the party elders alive, tell me again how great their healthcare is ;)
The plan was all there for anyone to read on Project 25. The guy says he doesn’t know anything about it during the campaign. First week in office and lots of it is already implemented.
His "Agenda 47" was basically just project 2025 with less words.
You’re right but I guess part of me was holding out hope that he wouldn’t go through with it all. Naive.
His voters haven’t been effected yet, when that happens, then something will happen. Maybe.
At this point it's too late. He doesn't need them anymore :/
And “you won’t have to vote again”…
Every tyrant everywhere and across all of history needs at minimum the acquiescence of his subjects. If we’re going to resist this we need to wake people from this idea that’s been drilled into us that voting is the only way to change politics. It’s not and never has been.
This is something that I wish more people understood.
There is no amount of authoritarianism, no amount of tyranny, that can govern an ungovernable populace. Every nation, ultimately, has the government that enough people are willing to accept. The arc between tyranny and liberty can only move the line on what constitutes "enough".
This is literally in Project 2025.
Is everyone down to just not pay taxes this year?
I mean can you imagine...
Go as far as to change your filing status on your w-2s?
Majorty of people: "Well, I'll just not file my taxes this year!"
Goverment: "Oh, no! Whatever shall I do with all these tax refunds?"