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Tesla's 2024 financial results were disappointing, with several key points highlighted:

  • Automotive Revenues: Fell by 8% in Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023, totaling $19.8 billion.
  • Energy and Storage Revenues: More than doubled, growing by 113% to $3 billion in Q4 2024.
  • Services: Grew by 31% in Q4 2024, contributing $2.8 billion.
  • Total Revenue: Increased by 2% in Q4 2024, but income fell by 23%, with an operating margin of 6.2%.
  • Net Profits: Dropped by 71% to $2.3 billion in Q4 2024.
  • Annual Performance: Automotive revenues decreased by 6% to $77 billion in 2024. Energy generation and storage increased by 67% to $10 billion. Services grew by 27%, bringing in $10.5 billion.
  • Gross Profits: Fell by 1%, with net profits dropping by 53% to $7.1 billion for the year.
  • Free Cash Flow: Decreased by 18% to $3.6 billion.
  • Regulatory Credits: $2.8 billion of profit came from selling regulatory credits, not from core business activities.
  • Future Predictions: Tesla expects energy storage revenues to grow by at least 50% year-over-year and aims to grow automotive sales by more than 60% in 2025.

Despite the poor financial results, Tesla's share price increased by 103% over the same period.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Value investing is basically dead, isn't it? Am I crazy? How can you objectively evaluate a company's value, notice it is undervalued, and then trade accordingly when price action does not even slightly track the company's value?

[-] cevn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The investors are banking on Elon looting the Govt coffers into Tesla. I can’t deny the chances based on the other crap we are seeing.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I wondered that a while ago when Tesla was worth more than many other car makers combined while producing far less vehicles than any single one of them. And I remember people telling me about projections and expectations and that it’s only a matter of time until everyone drives a Tesla basically. Sounded like mass hysteria to me back then because the rest of the world won’t just sit there quietly and let Tesla have a monopoly. People bought shares because they rose rapidly in value, causing even more people to buy shares. It’s a pyramid scheme like so many things these days and people have no problem with it apparently. They love gambling and playing lottery. Value investing is too boring for them.

[-] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Value investing is basically dead, isn't it?

You're looking at a too short time frame. The famous tulip bubble lasted for a decade, too.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Value investing isn't dead. There are tons of value investors, and they aren't the ones buying Tesla.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

My point is, if this is how markets react to worsening sales and an actually insane CEO how can you trust a rational bet to pay off?

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today -3 points 6 months ago

There's value investing and there's speculation. If Tesla can make a robot that can mop the floor, even this seemingly ridiculous valuation will look like a bargain. Have to remember, Tesla is not a car company. They are an AI and green tech company. Cars are just their largest activity to date.

I am concerned about Elon though. I think he's a visionary, I think he's valuable, but I also think he's spread far too thin and he's losing it as a result. Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter, xAI, Neuralink, and his political efficiency project. All of these are full-time 100hr/week jobs. Even if you assume he literally never sees his gaggle of children, hell even if you assume he never sleeps, there's literally not enough hours in the day. And I think he is thus blind to the fact that his antics are costing him support for the bigger mission.

[-] Godwins_Law@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

So when will he have time to play Path of Exile and Polyopia and oligarch?

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