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To ALL trans folk
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this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2025
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I agree. Children are very impressionable and there are bad actors who will try to convince them that it's better to be trans.
/s right? Because that doesn't happen. But I mean they are getting all these bad actors telling them it's better NOT to be trans. That only affects the trans kids. Telling a strait kid that it's better to be trans will be met with scoffs. Telling a trans kid that being trans is bad somehow will fuck them up.
No, it definitely happens.
I see it all the time and they're not even ashamed of it.
Where are you that you see trans people try to convince children it is better to be trans "all the time?"
Sorry flying squid, I can tell you're on a tirade and are going to keep replying to all of my posts if I keep responding to you.
I'm going to stop this now and put you on ignore. I hope you can realize for yourself why you're incorrect, but it's not my problem to educate you about the real world.
Goodbye, and good luck.
What a bizarre lie.
Are you conflating "it's ok to be trans" with "being trans is better?" Becuase those are not the same thing. Is what you're saying anecdotal or do you have like a real source?
E: ah I see your comment history, I understand now. Please, what is the "trans agenda" in your own words. Btw, contrary to what you've said you've always been allowed not to like trans, people, or even hate the idea of people being trans, just like people can call you out on it, what you can't do is take away their rights, that's when there is an issue. P.s. I hope you're against circumcisions.
No, I'm not conflating them.
Let me repeat exactly what I wrote: "there are bad actors who will try to convince them that it’s better to be trans." I shouldn't have to spell this out for you, but this means that some people will try to convince others that it's better to be trans.
Are you trying to argue that those people don't exist? If so, please say it.
Granted, you did say that, sure there may be 1 or two people who say that and you said you see it all the time, so surely its widespread. I see you aren't aware of hyperbole. Now that that's done with. Will you continue to conveniently ignore my questions?
I never used the word "widespread" or mentioned scale at all. I'm glad we can at least agree that it does happen.
You can figure out the answers to your questions on your own.
Ah yes the classic i can't back it up. Thanks, I knew you couldn't, you just had to admit it. Wait you see it all the time, but it's not widespread, surely, with your anecdotal evidence it happens with frequency, since you said "all the time" that means it's constant. Every time you leave the house, or dare I say it in your house, people are telling kids to be trans. (See what I did there. I used your stupid semantics the same way you do)
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I've already debunked you several times. I'm not going to keep doing it just because you refuse to admit when you're wrong.
Gonna ignore you now because you're never going to stop replying to my posts.
Goodbye, and good luck.
You really like hyperbole, cause not even once have you debunked me. Classic Shapiro. I can't argue my case so I'm gonna ignore you haha
I may joke to male friends that they should be femboys but that is the extent of what I've seen. Whenever anyone says that they actually are questioning their gender I give them as much space as they need to figure it out themselves but am always open to questions. The trans people I know are the same and most trans people on the internet seem to be too. I wouldn't be too surprised if there are some people who are not like us and do try to force others. I think cis people trying to force trans people to be cis are more common.
Yeah, that's how it starts. It's how neo-nazis wriggle their way into places they shouldn't be.
"It's just a joke, bro." Until it isn't.
I agree, there are tons of bad actors out there. I can't believe how much time and money is invested into brainwashing children into thinking that men and women marrying is normal. I still don't understand straight relationships, which one is the woman and which one is the other woman?
And you guys wonder why people don't take you seriously.
If you can accept the reality of gender dysphoria, then it is reasonable to address how that condition is best treated. The consequences of not treating can be lethal via suicide so this is not an idle question. If transitioning makes the difference between life or death (or chronic substantial depression) then arguably encouraging this affected people to "be trans" is the right thing to do. Sorry if it hurts your feeling but that's the reality of it.
What about those that kill themselves after transitioning because they regret it?
My feelings are fine, but I think you're ignoring the part of reality that goes against your agenda.
Please show your home work.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-data-shows-about-transgender-detransition-regret-1807448
While, since you looooove semantics so much, I'm sure it happens that some people coming suicide after transitioning it is, to my understanding FAR less than the baseline, also you need to show that suicide is the result of transitioning, and not anti trans people bullying and harassing them, for the crime of being who they are.
So... what about those that kill themselves after transitioning because they regret it?
Are you trying to argue they don't matter because they're a minority?
Re read what I wrote please. Also don't straw man, show your homework. C'mon do better.
You're never going to answer this because you know it defeats your argument.
I'll just take this as your surrender and we can move on with our lives.
You may have the last word, I can tell you're desperate for it.
They (probably) exist but are fewer than those that that kill themselves because they can't transition. Also the regret rates at least for gender affirming surgeries (I don't think I can generalize any further without weird exceptions and further research) are significantly lower than all other surgeries.
So, the people who kill themselves because they regret transitioning don't matter because they're a minority?
Same rhetoric republicans would use to justify hate for any marginalized people.
No I didn't say that. I said that more people benefit from having the choice of recieving trans healthcare than regret, let alone decide to kill themselves because of it.
The way I understand your argument is that because a few people have negative effects from choosing to do something that has a positive effect on a lot of others the ability to prepare for it should be restricted to people until later in life when some important benefits are lost.
The only gender affirming healthcare given to people under the age of 18 years is puberty blockers which only delay the effects of puberty and cause negligible long term effects (this is an assumption, I have not heard of any long term effects of puberty blockers but I assume there are some). Why would people who regret transitioning be a reason to stop that?
My previous comment was explaining why the option of medical transitions for adults should be available. It benefits those who need it. One can't help those who transition medically and regret it far beyond attempting to reverse it. We can however try to avoid those situations by giving better them better education about transitioning.
Just because surgeries/games can go wrong doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed as a way to help people or make them happier.
Cis women can regret breast implants, but somehow I don't hear anyone advocating for stopping breast implants for cis women. You can even get them if you're under 18. For purely cosmetic reasons.
Awww you can't back up your statement? Shocker! Sad.