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My wife practices witchcraft, and I have begun to lightly look into it and attempted a few things.
My experiences, and what others would say is this....
Magic is not a 5th level wizard casting a fireball spell. Magic is subtle. Magic is coincidence that you willed.
You're not gonna hit the jackpot on the lottery, but you might find that you have the money for what you needed during the ritual through, shall we say, happenstance?
Intent is paramount. Will is secondary.
If you want a good primer on "real" magic, I suggest looking into Chaos Magic. Liber Null is a book to start with, and is generally recommended. That being said, it assumes a little bit of the reader, and a general understanding of the concepts is advised before reading.
Of course, it could all be bullshit and, like I said, coincidence. However, as research into quantum physics advances, I'm less and less doubtful of "random" things causing long term effect. That being said, I'm human. I inherently have biases no matter how hard I try not to.
Also: I bounced around their podcast based on subject, can you list any specific episodes they discussed this?
ope, found it after I typed all this other bullshit - lpotl episode 230 is called chaos magic part 1. I'm pretty sure that's when they started practicing, and it's only in the chaos magic episodes that they go into depth for extended periods about practicing magic, but they mention it obliquely for a couple hundred episodes or so that they're still doing it until they both decide to stop.
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I can't remember specifically, it was over several dozen or maybe even a hundred episodes in total, it was before Henry got married or I think even met Natalie, and I believe it was around the time they were discussing. Aleister Crowley, but I can't be sure.
I'll go check!
they were both studying chaos magic before, redditors claim Henry is now practicing right hand magic after he quit chaos, and Marcus quit chaos. didn't really go back to it.
I started from the beginning so it would have been in the first few years that they've tried
ope, here there's like two extra clicks not to copy a link.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LPOTL/s/aVaOxiVQca
hey Aleister, Crowley episode is 442, and they were still talking about doing magic at that point or they had just stopped doing magic, so they started before that, and I don't think it went for a very long time, like a year or something before. neither of them wanted to mess with what they saw as unintended consequences.
Awesome, thanks. I have listened to those, I think, but I'm pretty sure I was at work at the time, so I was in and out on it.
I'll have to go back and give it a re-listen.
Thanks again.
for sure, they were interested for like 100 episodes, and after these introductory episodes every now and then one of them would mention yeah and then the sigil worked out last week and they talked for like 2 minutes about how chaos magic was working and then move on and then week after week instead of being positive it started to get negative and the negative consequences sort of ballooned.
have fun listening