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Core Midwest: Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa
Upper Midwest: Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Outer Midwest: ND, SD, Nebraska (parts at least)
I will never recognize: Missouri
Everything else below Nebraska is "Plains" IMO.
South of the Ohio River is upper south.
Western PA and Pittsburgh can be "Midwest" if it wants, but the rest of PA isn't and the majority of the state doesn't qualify, so we'd have to balkanize.
how can iowa be part of the core, but not wisconsin or michigan??
the core midwest are the great lakes states: wisconsin, michigan, illinois, minnesota. i’ll typically put indiana in there too
then, there’s the peripheral midwest, which i typically consider part of the midwest: iowa, ohio, nd, sd
finally, there’s the not-really-midwest: nebraska, western PA
Iowa is the paradigm midwest state, how the fuck can it be peripheral??
that’s fair - i’d be comfortable moving iowa into the core. i left it on the periphery because western iowa is very much great plains-esque
regardless, if iowa is in the core, then so is wisconsin and michigan