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[-] KnitWit@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

I’m not sure how well that analogy holds up. Farmers are usually pretty well versed in mechanical systems. To the point that now that John Deere has been screwing them over on right to repair that some farmers are even becoming versed in computer programming so they can flash the firmware on their tractors.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Farmers can build a two stroke from parts.

[-] KnitWit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

No, but if a farmer’s tractor is overheating (as in the gard drive conparison), I’m sure they could diagnose it.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Let me rephrase: most farmers I know could build a two stroke from parts

[-] KnitWit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Haha, hell yeah. Saw your reply at the same time op responded to my message and misinterpreted. Agreed.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 days ago

I never said that it was impossible for a farmer to learn things outside their immediate field. Just like computer programmers often have knowledge of hardware and the general technology stack.

My point, to make it explicit to a few of the illiterates who’ve replied to my comment so far, is that it is not necessary to teach a web developer how a goddamn CPU works. They can gain nothing from that knowledge because there are at least 3 levels of abstraction between JavaScript and assembly.

[-] KnitWit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And my point is that the example you used does not make the point you are trying to make, but rather the opposite. I get what you’re saying, it just doesn’t apply to farmers and mechanics.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah. Every farmer I've met was also a solid mechanic.

[-] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

Operating your tools and being able to maintain and repair your tools are the unequivocally essential skills for everyone in every single industry.

If you can't, you are not a professional.

The concepts of machine logic, registers/lookups/etc are essential for every programmer. If you don't have a clear idea about how the simplest CPU functions, you don't have any basis of understanding the abstractions in front of you, scripting in JS. Not a professional.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

no but a web dev should have some knowledge basis on what the ever living fuck their AIDs code fuelled by nothing but the cheapest source of caffeine and brain damage they have even does.

This is the entire reason why half of the internet is just broken, stupid developers who don't know how anything works, but know how to code, making dogshit implementations of anything and everything they can get their hands on.

It doesn't matter that the learning is segmented, you should STILL be learning about computer hardware and it's architectural choices, it's literally the reason why programming languages work the way that they do.

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