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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago

A lot of this is kinda already happening.

Score could be kept with citations.

This is already something people brag about / look at as a measure of success. There are plenty of free websites to keep track but the most popular one is Google Scholar.

Perhaps competing labs could both receive citation credit if their results essentially showed the same thing.

When I find multiple good papers that have the information I need, I cite all of them, and even feel happy about it because citing a lot of papers can make your paper look like you put in more work.

If nobody could scoop anyone else's work, then cooperation may be encouraged over competition.

It’s a bit hard to completely do away with scooping. A possibly more practical way to increase cooperation would be to eliminate the idea of the “first author” getting the majority of the credit. It’s really annoying when like 5 people heavily contributed to the paper but whoever’s name is listed first ends up getting 90% of the credit because that’s what people look for.

The idea of doing things in a wiki format is interesting though.

[-] fristislurper@feddit.nl 5 points 8 hours ago

I don't know if first authorship needs to go away. I've definitely been 2nd or 3rd author for a few days of work (as compared to months of work for the first author).

You can give detailed attribution (many papers require them nowadays), but no-one ever reads them.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

in a structured and dynamic system, order could be randomised - not entirely, but between the “tiers” of contributors… it looks as though if everyone submitted detailed attribution, that could then be used to dynamically vary order so that nobody gets “first” for every view for the same amount of effort as others

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