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I don't know how extended this is, but apparently there are car makers selling cars with no keys. Instead you download a proprietary app and use it to access your car.

I like being practical and talking to a car to turn the volume up or down, to open the door or to turn the temperature higher are things I don't need nor want. Give me mechanical levers, reachable stalks and no proprietary bloatware. I don't need a movie theater on wheels.

Imagine an early 2000s car running on an electric motor. That's what I want.

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[-] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

My Chevy Bolt is all Electric and has a real physical key that has to be in the cabin to drive. No app bullshit. The Bolt is currently out of production but any of the Chevy EV should be the same. Chevy never went full app-dumb and many of the modern convenience features are gates behind OnStar. I have a regular car remote for lock, unlock, and prestart.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

has a real physical key that has to be in the cabin to drive

🤨 the way you say "has to be in the cabin" makes me think it's not a real physical key, and is actually a wireless smart key that you leave in your pocket when starting the car.

It's got a metal key inside the housing that unlocks the doors and the fob sensor is actually inside the armrest so if the battery is dead you place the fob inside a pocket in the armrest and it authenticates your fob with NFC and you drive away. Closest I've seen in a modern car anywhere.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

Well at least the physical key works for the doors. What year is that?

Yeah, I wish there was a company that made a fully dumb electric car, but there's just no incentive to do that. I have a 2014 gas car with a normal physical key that you use to turn start it, but I don't think I've ever seen an electric car where you have to use the physical key to start the car.

[-] CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I wish there was a company that made a fully dumb electric car

I’ve been thinking this too. How hard is it to start a car company, I wonder?

Mines a 2017 but they didn't change this over time as far as I understand. GM had a bad problem with the key-in-ignition a few years ago and will likely never use them again.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

so if the battery is dead [...] and you drive away.

what do you mean?

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

If the key fob battery is dead it still has a physical key that is removed from the key fob to unlock the doors and can still interface with the car via NFC to allow operation of the vehicle once inside (not op but I have a car with that going on so I’m making the assumption).

The screen is used for the backup camera and the radio. The fan speed and where the air is directed is buttons but the temp and heat/AC status are controlled via the screen.

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