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Literally all the ppl I've seen complain about white veganism or privileged vegans have been white. Like I'm sure there are plenty of POC making this claim, and as a white person I'll sit and listen, but it feels overly silly for white carnists to make this.
I can't stop repeating the claim that all the research I've seen shows that lower income people are more likely to go vegan, and rich people are less likely. Posh people are going to be more selfish. In my experience they don't stick with veganism as well, and it's more often tied to a short-term health fad.
Edit: I forgot the "black people are 3 times more likely to be vegan" headline. I think it says a lot that marginalised groups go vegan faster than the dominant social groups do.
Yeah, my poor, Black ass has been eating a lot of black/refried bean + vegetable tacos as of late... treats me well, and I can't afford shit...
Also, as far as the thing about the POC calling veganism "white" or "privileged" goes, it's more often than not still just as disingenuous as white non-vegans doing so. Trust me, the number who have called me "self-hating" and "racist," falsely labeled me as "white" or "privileged" because of online anonymity, and accused me of "upholding white supremacy" simply because I unapologetically oppose animal oppression can't even be entirely counted on both hands.
It's good to listen to them, but you don't have to take it seriously if their words are deeply unserious, honestly. It's utter rubbish in most instances, similar to how a Zionist being Jewish doesn't make them crying "antisemitism!" any more valid.
Anti-vegan POC remind me of a toxic trend that I feel like the left often ignores even in the context of human justice movements: acting like being marginalized automatically means you cannot be an oppressor, the false notion that being oppressed and an oppressor are mutually exclusive. Since I'm intersectional, I've seen this type of thinking exploited way too much in contexts like white women being racist, Black straight people being homophobic, and gay people being transphobic. People inadvertently end up giving it a pass because too many on the left think in this simplistic "oppressor or oppressed" false dichotomy that makes them scared to criticize these things, especially when the bigotry is more implicit. It's the same thing with marginalized anti-vegans, but in this case, their oppression is directed at non-human animals instead.
That being said, there are absolutely white vegans who are racist, and I've interacted with them directly. However, the general rule of thumb that you can adhere to is, if the person complaining about a trend of vegans being racist is not both a POC and a vegan, it may be disingenuous. And even then, you can't be entirely sure. I've heard vegans of color call certain things in the vegan movement "racist" that I wholeheartedly disagree with them on.
Another analogy I like to use is that non-vegan POC complaining about "white veganism" or "racist veganism" is on the same level as Candace Owens hypothetically complaining about "white feminism" specifically.