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[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago

That's why I try to make dumb things smart, not replace the dumb with smart. Like, make the switch smart, not the bulb.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

Along with making it backwards compatible. (Ie, control system goes down you can still operate just like a dumb system)

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Can't lock people into some service if you do that. They gotta have that recurring monthly revenue.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Aye. I did learn this the good old hard way.😁

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

I agree with the overall sentiment, but a smart switch would be harder to change than a smart bulb most of the time. Smart switch would require electrical work to replace. A smart bulb can just be swapped. If anything the toilet is a good proxy. A smart flush means it won't manually flush. If they had done a smart fill you could just manually fill the tank with water.

[-] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Not necessarily. The "smart" necessarily causes some real world movent (opens a valve). Just design the physical action to be able to be performed both manually and electrically.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

In this post it seems as though smart is being used to mean completely replacing the thing. I think that having both smart and dumb options is ideal, but in this particular context I think the reference point is that the smart object does not allow a manual override.

[-] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

To be fair, if you had a water supply you could just chuck buckets of water down your toilet if the flush wasn’t working.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

True, but you could also add a switchbot to it. Ugly but simple and without electrical maintenance needed.

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