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this post was submitted on 11 Apr 2025
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this is ridiculous and completely incorrect.
pretty colors, vapid content.
Bernie, AOC, Abrams and others are fighting for the expansion and protection of civil rights.
trump is taking away and devaluing civil rights.
It's not entirely incorrect. The two party system is designed to force both parties to appeal to the average person. But when one side goes radical and still appeals to a big chunk of voters, the other side has to consider how to capture those voters too. In the case of the democrats, that means taking an extremely conservative approach to countering the Republicans, because they somehow still believe there's a chance Republican voters will swing towards them. Young people are looking for a far more left wing government than the democrats are providing and so voter apathy among that demographic is so high, leading to this spiral. There are people fighting for sure, but the average is moving to the right.
"It’s not entirely incorrect."
The theory is not entirely incorrect.
The diagram as a representation of American politics, especially with respect to Sanders, is incorrect, lazy and harmful to political comprehension at large.
And the party's leaders are actively trying to stop them.
Also all of these people were silent or supported the Gaza genocide.
your comment is
explicitly incorrect since Sanders forced multiple votes on blocking US arms to israel,
implicitly incorrect since neither of your comments negate the fact that the diagram is incorrect.
Civil rights aren't leftwing policy so... okay?
Not okay. Civil rights are firmly left-wing policy, specifically for the politicians mentioned.
In the US, the left wing works to expand civil rights and protections.
In the US, the right wing tries to restrict civil rights and protections.
No. In the US the right tries to restrict civil rights and everyone to the left of Reagan, including center-right corporate stooges, tries to expand them. If the capitalists like it, it's not leftist policy.
Not at all.
You are pulling the wool over your own eyes because it is easier to complain about how everything is set against you than to support a cause that is not certain to succeed.
Like the diagram: incorrect, but simple to understand.
What cause?
The expansion and protection of civil rights and social services
Uh... Those are two different causes, which is why until 2020 one was successful and one wasn't. Now both are failing, because without an equitable society civil rights will inevitably be degraded by rightwing demagogues, and the Democrats simply don't want an equitable society. I'm not saying that means there's no path forward, but that the Democrats won't give you that path; the people of America (which I'm not one of) will have to make it themselves.
"Those are two different causes"
They are not, but if they were, it wouldn't matter anyway.
"until 2020 one was successful and one wasn’t."
this is plainly incorrect, both were changing as they always do, civil rights and social services do not have a static end point.
"Now both are failing, because without an equitable society civil rights will inevitably be degraded by rightwing demagogues"
You're hiding behind the big bad "everything is out to get me and there's nothing I can do" again.
You are also plainly incorrect again, as proven by current democracies under which civil rights have been expanded and protected by what you consider left-wingers.
"the Democrats simply don’t want an equitable society"
Also plainly incorrect, since you're stating an absolute about a dynamic group.
" I’m not saying that means there’s no path forward"
strange that you are the one to bring it up, then.
"the Democrats..."
You cannot speak for them since you clearly don't know anything about politics, especially the US Democratic party.
"people of America (which I’m not one of)"
seems unlikely, given your language and understanding of several "American" terms like "rightwing" and "leftwing". hiding?
"...will have to make it themselves."
correct! glad you unwittingly agree in the end. Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ohmar, Abrams, all "people of America".
Does it feel good to spam "incorrect" at anything you don't like? Either way this conversation is too farcical for my liking; I'm gonna go do something else.
"spam"
I'm not spamming, I'm clearly and patiently explaining which points you are incorrect about.
You happen to be incorrect often.
"I’m gonna go do something else."
Good luck. Try opening your eyes before moving.