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I made the mistake of replying to a comment on hexbear that was erroneously claiming Ukraine started the war, dudes are absolutely deranged.
I too fucked up with that. Got obliterated, dogpiled, my wording sliced apart to catch any out I didn't perfectly cover, and pretty sure banned, so honestly I think I found a good way to defederate from a whole instance, at the user level lol
Typical lefties.
hexbear and other tankies are very atypical lefties. They are a tiny minority and not at all representative of "lefties" in general.
Yeah, right.
Really? Typical lefties? Go to r/conservative on Reddit and say something mildly critical about Trump. Or slightly supportive of abortion rights. See how long you last.
Righties are no different. Actually, they're the same shit.
This screams "enlightened centrism"
Can't tolerate authoritarian regimes.
Russian federation worshipping fascists aren't left just because they wave a red flag sometimes.
The original 2014 conflict did start because the Russian speaking population panicked when the pro west and Ukrainian nationalists took over in the revolution. There legitimately were Nazis in positions of power then, though as far as I know it was much better by 2022.
Policies like removing russian language rights didn't help either. So while obviously a large part falls on Russia for invading and trying to fulfil their imperialist ambitions Ukraine is not as innocent as it seems either.
Have a look at this to see why russian minorities would be concerned https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language_in_Ukraine#Ukrainization_in_modern_Ukraine
So Russia just had to invade the Crimea to protect people who they consider culturally linked? That's your argument?
I like how you get downvoted to oblivion for even mentioning the diet version of events. Even the CNN reporting of the time didn't hide the obvious.
Another fine example.