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submitted 21 hours ago by trilobite@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I've been noticing over la last few years that is is becoming more and more difficult to login to accounts, whether a bank account, a membership account, sometimes even browsing websites for shopping, through my VPN server. Is this just my impression or is there something going on now whereby there are services that keep list of VPN servers that are then sold to backs so that these parties can keep out anyone from trying to login via a VPN. It feels like the general consensus is VPN=malicious rather than "VPN="this guy is just trying to protect his privacy". I use AIRVPN but was wondering if there are VPN services that are more sophisticate and try to circumvent these VPN server blocks? It becoming a real pain to the point I'm wondering what it the point of paying fro a VPN is I'm finding myself having to login through my ISP IP rather than my VPN IP.

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[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 1 points 20 hours ago

TOR is just slightly harder to keep up on as far as being listed on the same tables as commercial VPN hosts because it's so dynamic. Anyone can spin up a node and be a relay or, for the brave/foolish, an exit node in a few minutes.

Privacy largely comes from a plausible deniability in that the person asking for a site could be the originator or they could just be relaying a request for the originator. Freenet, or now called hypha net is similar that way.

My perspective on internet privacy has long been that while I don't expect to be a ghost, I can make the picture as muddy as I can to make whatever profile they gather be as useless as possible.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 20 hours ago

TOR is just slightly harder to keep up on as far as being listed on the same tables as commercial VPN hosts because it’s so dynamic. Anyone can spin up a node and be a relay or, for the brave/foolish, an exit node in a few minutes.

Actually Tor relays and exits are published, public knowledge and you will be on every list that cares about listing those within hours of spinning up a relay or exit.

[-] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 points 19 hours ago

Interesting, I get a couple feeds that reference them but thought those where all gathered info rather than self published.

[-] HappinessPill@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

To avoid legal repercussions, probably.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 16 hours ago

It's how Tor works. You have to publish your relay's address or else other relays can't find you. You can host a private/hidden guard node, but not an exit or relay.

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