have you considered that you lashing out and calling people tankies is you defending yourself?

im speaking from experience learning to deprogram this in myself, and i've seen it in others a lot too - this tendency to be willing to fight and argue and bluster for positions we hold that are earnestly untrue.

i know i was being rude and basically laughing at you, but I can apologize for that in earnest - if you'll forgive me - i want to just say that it doesn't have to be like this.

Most leftists are tired. they don't have any inclination to be nice or explain their positions, but I can spare a tiny fuck to give? Though i'm obviously running out of gas for that, I want to try and connect with you, if you'll allow it.

the US was the model for german fascism. We are the direct inspiration. Fascism is derived from the American project, and post ww2, fascism more or less successfully infiltrates and overtly takes over US politics. I can dig up sources. Or, at least, i can dig up people who can make the case better than me, if you're open to the truth but you can't take my word for it, please DM me and i'll do my level best to offer up my position in earnest.

I think you deserve a chance to hear these things and accept them or reject them. I think everybody does. I want to believe there are people who can wake the fuck up when exposed to the right stuff. A lot of people think adults are beyond helping when they're certain in their worldview. i personally don't believe that, i'd love for you to demonstrate that i guess.

Sometimes we have economic/lifestyle/privilege reasons for insisting things aren't this way or that way. Sometimes it's just lacking the right context, or being overly trusting of mainstream framing of issues and events.

There are a lot of causes, but I would rather try to help you than shit on you further. I'm sorry for my rudeness, but you're absolutely wrong, and tankie as a label indicates you're conditioned to be hostile to leftist points of view, but i also know how liberals are conditioned to receive reasonable factual information, and i think that's how I can help you. History doesn't lie, experts can lie, but their insight might help.

Please DM me. If you waste my time i'll know it, and that's unfortunate, but there's no cost but your time and hopefully your thoughtful consideration.