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Election hopes deflate at Conservative HQ
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I really hope he fails the leadership review and they get a better leader.
I hope he fails the leadership review and they tear themselves apart trying to select a new leader.
We need to see them have a civil war and reject the reform maga factions and bring back the Progressive Conservatives.
They are called Liberal now.
You may need air-quotes around the progressive part.
Agreed in principle, but it was capital P as a noun, not lowercase p as in adjective. ;)
In the conservatives mind, this election was close, The conservative voter base has gotten even further right wing, They're overdue for their Trump Effect takeover like what happened to the Republican party in USA. , where the party doubles down on the ideology.
the Peoples Party has been a flop for the last 3 elections, the only reason it existed was because Bernier was pissed off that he lost the Conservative leadership to Scheer (or was it Otoole?).
Im expecting a civil war within the party, the PPC will probably fold and rejoin the conservatives, and the Conservatives will go even farther right wing next time, Maple MAGA time. The loud populist conspiracy anti woke faction will probably drown out the moderate conservatives.
One part of me hopes the Reform and PCs split again after this, but realistically idk that's happening. Leslyn Lewis will totally run again, if they're doubling down on those ideas might be they select her.
any party will do everything they can to remain homogenous (and not split) as long as they think their primary opponent will do the same.
practically, both liberals and cons have signifigant factions that could split away, realistically, they probably wont.
when I said there'd be a war in the conservative party, I didnt mean that it'd split. I think one mindset will drown out the others. and presentley in 2025, Right wing populism and Anti-Establishment attitudes are what is looking like that mindset will be.
I'd enjoy the schadenfreude of watching the Conservatives go through another Reform/PC split, but that gave the Liberals an easy decade. It would be better for the country if CPC could grow a brain, accept climate change exists, and focus on real issues (affordability and healthcare), rather than the culture war.
It would be amazing if the NDP filled that role, but they don't get votes on a lot of ridings.
Like another commenter said, I might as well wish for a pony.
Honestly, though, this is the opposite of conservatism. It's a LOT of navel-gazing and hate by elitists; even if they're "temporarily embarrassed elites" like generationally poor people who've voted against their own best interests for decades -- but hope that propping up some pseudoaristocrats will support them on the trickle-down until their magic payday comes and restores them to an economic station they've never held where they will finally enjoy benefit from the policies they supported faithfully for so long.
I further hope the party gets some introspection and ditches a lot of their dumbass culture wars inspired policies.
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Yeah, I know. I might as well wish for a pony while I'm at it...
Hey, I'd love a pony too.
I totally agree. I'm not sure I'd ever vote CPC, but a party that is less about imported anti-woke culture wars and more about taking care of what we have would be good.
They usually cycle in someone else after a failure, so him losing his own seat may incite regime change.
Getting a better leader? Trends aren't with us, here.
Doug Ford's probably got his eye on the position.
He's generally a pretty shitty leader, but in crisis situations such as COVID or the trade war he's at least demonstrated basic competence.