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[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 months ago

Lmao i didn't even get past "kills everything she touches" without my adhd brain flying away and imagining how sad and lonely she must be and how on order to have human touch, she'd have to find somebody either incapable of dying or who can realive themselves. Like a living-dead girl. Also I assumed she was gay for some reason.

[-] AnExerciseInFalling@programming.dev 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You should definitely check out this 20 page short comic: https://imgur.com/gallery/wolverines-job-isnt-always-easy-to-do-I71V6

It's basically that, and Wolverine goes in because his regeneration keeps him alive

(Edit: From Marvel's Ultimate X-Men Vol. 1 #41)

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Jesus CHRIST. There was no other solution? I get the pragmatism, but... Fuck. This is like an actual mercy killing.

[-] AnExerciseInFalling@programming.dev 11 points 3 months ago

I'm not a big comic fan (I've only read small snippits like this), but this is from the "ultimates" storyline, which to my understanding is an alternate universe where things are... much bleaker than normal Marvel

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Sheesh that's kinda dark.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 months ago

Damn, that's a good comic. Dark superhero comics are definitely my thing; Worm/Ward (Parahumans universe by Wildbow, online fiction) are good recommendations if anybody likes this sort of thing

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 15 points 3 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago

Nah, Wolverine was canonically cishet last I checked 🤷

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's a pretty boring immortality if he never tried anything new

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

He's one of Marvel's biggest mary sues and overrated as fuck. I remember seeing somewhere, I think at Cracked, that on a Wolverine vs. Punisher comic, mr macho man finds out that Frank Castle has plenty of naked muscle men magazines, "It's research!"
Wolvie's reaction was a silent smirk that spoke "HAHA LOL UR GAY"

[-] tetris11@feddit.uk 13 points 3 months ago

I mean that was a pretty standard response at the time, so maybe Wolverine is just echoing the attitudes of the time?

I do wonder this about immortals, do they live long enough for the white cells in their brain to solidify into pure inflexible dark grey matter, or are they in a constant state of flux that their attitudes change on a whim depending on their surroundings (essentially, forever mentally children)

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

At least in wolverines case, he isn’t truly, fully, immortal. His healing factor eventually slows to the point he gets old and dies. In the case if true immortality like Mr. Immortal, it is most likely part of the power that gives them immortality to also keep the body roughly the same, i.e in working order. Mentally they all probably go insane after a few hundred or thousand years, but the comics do not cover such large periods or accurately reflect the mental state.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

His healing factor eventually slows to the point he gets old and dies.

Isn't it usually that it gets interfered with, and that does him in?

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

To my knowledge, interfering with the healing factor only works while actively interfering it, and if you stop at any point Logan is able to come back essentially post mortem. In some books it is so powerful that he essentially stopped aging when he acquired the healing factor secondary mutation. In the movies, he still ages but much slower, and eventually his body begins to reject the adamantium in his skeleton and his healing factor cannot heal fast enough, leading to his (kinda) death.

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

The neat thing about a silent response from a fictional character is that it can be reinterpreted.

If someone was hoarding nude pics and told me they were for "research", I'd smirk too. "Researching all night til their arm falls off."

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 months ago

Wolverine? He can die, can't he? He's just really really hard to kill, to my knowledge, and just regenerates really really fast. But if she touches somebody and they instantly die.... That won't make much difference. Unless he's ACTUALLY immortal, rather than just effectively/virtually immortal and just really really hard to kill.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago

Her touch isn't instant death, but it's fast enough that it makes no difference to most people. His regeneration can keep up, but barely. And at the end of the first movie, he does touch her.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 12 points 3 months ago

He's fine in the source material

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Except her power is to take other people's powers. Theirs stops working shortly after contact is made. His regeneration might help for a few seconds... Until it stops working because she stole it.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

It has been a while since I've seen the movie, so I looked it up to make sure. Her power is to borrow other people's powers through physical contact. Essentially, if contact is short and he can regain his power fast enough (which he does), he's fine. Those few seconds his regeneration helps with are all he needs.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

That doesn't do a whole lot to help with the touch issue this entire thread was about. When people talk about wanting human touch, they don't mean just a half second tap.

[-] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 12 points 3 months ago

Huh? Rogue's power is that she sucks power/energy out of other people, wolverine regenerates so he's fine.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

This happened in the movies. He survived, but was not "fine".

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

He really gave her the gift of life 💦

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

Regeneration is his power. She takes powers. Regeneration won't help him for very long.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

Wolverine? He can die, can’t he?

Depends on the author and how "important" he is to the story. In the original civil war comic arc, a Nitro dude exploded him down to the shiny bones. Wolvie came back from that in 5 minutes. On the days of future past comic arc in the 80s, oldverine dies from a sentinel blast that also leaves him as just metal bones.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 3 months ago

Ridiculous with it in the 2000s. In the old days it was he just heals faster than most and take a beating but he can still die. I remember one where he was sneaking onto a ship or something and was starving so he cannibalize his own arm which didn't make sense. Also another one had a story about how he was in a concentration camp in WW2 and kept get incinerated and coming back. Just tons of dumb shit like that that made the character less interesting.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

There's a comic in which he gets annihilated and regenerates from a single surviving cell. Or from the ashes, or something. In any car, I remember it implying that his power exists beyond his physical body, because when he regenerates he isn't a mental infant - he still had his memories, even though his brain was destroyed.

However.

In the super-hero genre there's a tenancy to one-upmanship. Later artists amplify the powers of the character more and more until they are like unto gods. Superman may be the best example of this; in one series he goes and hangs out at the center of the sun for a few centuries and comes out omnipotent. If you go back to his roots in the mid-century, he was a super man, but not a god. Wolverine kept getting more and more powerful as the decades went on, until that arc where he regenerates from a single cell. I don't think the original creator imagined him being that indestructible.

[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago

That's not even counting the guy that instantly dissolved everyone around him and the X-Men sent Logan to take him out.

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