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[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Pathfinder video games are directly from the Pathfinder tabletop game, which is basically a different copyright of D&D. They would need a DM. I'm not sure what else you could be thinking.

Edit: DM = Dungeon Master (D&D), GM = Game Master (Pathfinder), as this user pointed out below.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 months ago

They're called GMs in Pathfinder ;)

Dungeon Master is a DnD term, and trademarked by WotC.

[-] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 3 months ago

+1 Hate for intellectual property law

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 months ago

Breaking Hasbro IP is chaotic good though

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago

I'd rather not give them the recognition, and Pathfinder ditched alignment anyway.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago

It is actually a good strategy to dilute the term Dungeon Master into a general phrase, because that means Hasbro can't enforce their copyright. For instance, Aspirin is a brand name, but it's such a generic term that anyone in the US can call their product Aspirin without risk.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We'll have to agree to disagree! I prefer using the game's defined term, or Game Master for general usage.

Edited to add, you TTRPG players sure are a contentious people.

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

Well, when the players enter a dungeon, it becomes the Dungeon Master.
Everywhere else, it can be a Game Master. Inside the game of course. If they go outside the game then... well, then that's just another guy in the outside.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Funnily, my games feature few actual dungeons.

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Don't you mean "us TTRPG people"? You're also a part of this

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

It's a Simpsons reference.

[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Oh I completely forgot about that distinction XD

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

GM is also used in GURPS, but the 5 guys here who have used it already know that.

And if they want someone to join them, they can always DM me.

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 3 months ago

Pathfinder is very different mechanically to dnd. It's like saying settlers of catan is a different copyright of carcassonne.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 7 points 3 months ago

Pathfinder is very different mechanically to dnd

Is it though?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Depends on which edition of DnD, frankly. Pathfinder 1e and 2e are quite mechanically different, as many DnD editions are to each other.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I need to read up on Pathfinder 2e.

I know the "joke" was that 1e was basically D&D 3.75... which was a bit too powergamey for my tastes, so I never even looked at 2e...

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

It's still a d20 system but it is quite a bit different.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I've just not had the excuse to look yet, my life is currently a bit too chaotic for a regular game, let alone one in another new system...

I am working on an open game setting over at https://ttrpg.network/c/Canyonlands but don't have anything like a plan for actually running a game.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Good luck, fellow worldbuilder!

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

I guess it's all relative. I've played a handful of different TTRPGs, and d&d and pathfinder are much closer to each other than to things like VtM or BitD.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, of course. I don't disagree with that.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

2e ended up a lot more aproachable, you can no longer accidentally create a completely useless character.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Pathfinder is closer to D&D than most other TTRPGs (not counting direct D&D derivatives)

[-] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

True, but anyone who thinks it's a drag and drop replacement is in for a headache

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