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[-] KTVX94@lemmy.myserv.one 28 points 1 year ago

So what's the best one then? Communism/ socialism didn't do very hot either. Unless there's been some obscure, ancient economic system that I'm not aware of, there hasn't been a non-theoretical economic system that's been better than capitalism yet, as flawed as it is.

I get there's abundant evidence of the issues of the current system and the degenerate strategies it allows, but "capitalism bad haha" is getting stale.

[-] Lordbaum@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean socialism has and dose worked for millions of people. Imho The two main points of failure are imperialistic states like USSR and USA the second thing is authoritarian systems trying to force socialism (often it is just State-capitalism) on to the working class.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Mercantlism.

Yes, it's considered "proto-Capitalism", but its very distinct from how Capitalism is implemented in most countries nowadays.

There are dozens of economic models and theories that mix ideas of capitalism and communism.

[-] KTVX94@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago

I should look into it. Truth be told, there's no pure capitalism or socialism. It's really a bunch of economic sliders different countries balance more towards one side or the other throughout history. What I meant to say is A) systems that lean enough towards capitalism are the more successful even if they're far from perfect and B) The way people throw around the "capitalism bad" idea just like that doesn't help in any way and I'm tired of it. It's a mix of raw frustration and copypasting of ideas without any real substance.

[-] wtry@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Most of the reason socialism didn't do well is because the United States overthrew socialist countries that elected socialism and replaced them with capitalist dictators.

[-] Farvana@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

All you folks who downvoted this post, find me a communist country that the US didn't try to coup

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of things you obviously aren't aware of. Socialism is very successful across the board. The thing is, you are conflating leninists, or state communism with all communism and socialism. Which is wrong. But expected of someone educated especially in the United States and possibly other Western countries.

It might even surprise you to learn that a large swath of communist and socialists are often anti-state. There are communes all over the world that have been running successfully for a long time. You don't hear much about them simply because there isn't much to radicalize people against them with. If anything you hear people ridiculing them but little else.

[-] KTVX94@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 1 year ago

Fail to guess where I live: check

Fail to provide actual, concrete examples backed with evidence: check

Condescending: check

Cool story, bro

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

The true irony of it is that you're guilty of everything you accuse. Could you give an any concrete evidence etc. Maybe you would have earned some in return. Either way have a good day.

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