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Airlines Are Selling Your Data to ICE
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this post was submitted on 10 May 2025
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OK… We all knew this in 2004.
Is it suddenly more outrageous now?
It was bad in 2004 too, people just didn't realize that ICE was the Gestapo back then.
The mask is off. That's all.
You’re right that shit was also bad in 2004. But at that time, ICE had only existed for less than a year, so they were not the ones who were the Gestapo at the time. That was Homeland security, the DEA, and the FBI. In fact, homeland security was also extremely new, so it was mostly just the FBI, the DEA, and, degree, the NSA.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just saying that ice wasn’t really fully formed as an agency in 2004 like it is today, so if anyone was the Gestapo, they were probably not it. Not in 2004.
They used this access to suppress the Occupy Wall Street protests, including targeting the online activists, by designating it a 'counter-terrorism' operation.
If you participated in these protests online you'd suddenly find that the DEA knew about your marijuana use, the IRS decided that not filing your taxes was a criminal charge and your state and county police would receive 'anonymous tips' about any state laws that you were violating.
This was all because DHS intelligence services were combing through the online records of anybody that they could remotely link to these protests.
ICE is under Homeland Security. Besides, being new doesn't really make them not the Gestapo. The Gestapo was new at one point as well after all.
Communities weren't gathering around women trying to protect their baby while I stretch to drag them away.
Things aren't quite the same as they were in 2004.
I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say here, but shit was definitely just as bad in 2004. If you were around then, you should know. Shit has sucked here for a long time.
No, things are far worse, every day it's a new low at the moment, to try to argue otherwise is simply not in good faith. Shit, didn't they haul off some parents from a car yesterday and leave the kids int he car unsupervised?
I hope they know, that when this shit is all over "I was just following orders" will NOT keep them from prison.