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submitted 4 days ago by Keld@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

For everyone else the role of wizard is held a priest.
The greenskin have their shamans as their wizards
The ogres have their butchers who are wizard-cook-priests and the firebellies who are just priests
Dwarfs don't have priests and therefore no wizards
Chaos Dwarfs DO have priests and those guys are wizards
In Nehekera lich priests are wizards and as clearly evidenced by their name priests
For Lizardmen their wizards are the Slann (Priestly caste), and skink priests.
Skaven are half and half, in that technically they have other wizards but their main WIZARD guys (Grey seers) are also priests.

Is it because elves were the only ones with a secular magical tradition and the empire got their magic tradition from elves.

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[-] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago
[-] Keld@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I genuinely thought about presenting the hypothesis that it's because most of those other cultures with wizard-priests represent non-europeans in some way who would therefore be seen as non-enlightened by the racist subconscious of the writers.
But the chaos guys are scandinavian coded, although that could come down to the weird thing where some English people are still mad about the vikings.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

There's also Ulric, which has mage-priests. I think this is probably why the Empire has secular mages. Sigmar himself was a follower of Ulric and the Sigmarite religion still holds many of those beliefs.

[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

The great heathen army is still seen badly in (southern) english cultural perception. The creation of England was due to warfare with danes and other viking settlers in the north.

[-] Keld@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

English people when discussing ongoing colonialism: well that 'appened last chewsday, it's ancient history innit

English people when someone says a viking looks cool: THEY WERE VILE MONSTERS AND THEY SLAUGHTERED INNOCENT MONKS

[-] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 1 points 3 days ago

I guess reason of the response the later part is more due to the events being mythos in the national geist of the British people and the first part is due to the fear of possibly needing to pay reparation and seeing themselves as guilty. In the west there is no mature view on "being in the wrong", it is not fostered there and is mostly used to justify any punishment done to the other.

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