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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

Being called a single issue voter for caring about Palestinian children at all and a tankie for caring about economic liberation certainly would make this meme seem accurate.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -4 points 6 days ago

"Economic liberation" has any nation actually become freer when they rejected democracy for a pursuit of socialism?

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 6 days ago
[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No it isn't. If you are going to cite rhetorical flaws please have a clue what they are. At no point have I argued against any point they made so by definition this cannot be a straw man.

What I did was ask an inconvenient question ypu don't want to confront because it makes you have to face up to the lies you have accepted.

Your comment was a low effort strawman (and I suspect you to be little more than a liberal troll) for three reasons:

  1. Conflation of Socialism and state socialism
  2. False dichotomy of socialism and democracy
  3. Subtly hinting that only liberal democracy can bring freedom as opposed to workers democracy

From your second comment you have effectively proven that you are deeply unwilling to learn about the liberation of the workers. You are either deeply uniformed and/or you simply do not want to be informed. If you have any intrest in genuenly understanding my economic views feel free to read Think It Over by the IWW (its a very short read).

You are stretching so hard you are about to tear a muscle.

There was no strawman you just cannot accept the simple fact that I posed a question that you do not want to answer because the answer is inconvenient for your ideological perspective. The fact is most socialists/communists are at their heart authoritarians which is why they can talk about "freedom" in the context of modern China or the USSR.

[-] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 days ago

Tell me, did the Nordic countries reject democracy when they embraced socialism?

This is just a simple question, I’m sure you are willing to give an answer to it.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 6 days ago

Tell me, whats so free about your Liberal Democracy? Congratulations you get to choose between two politicans but they're both owned by the same corporations. You get free speech until it threatens capital or state. Lastly you enjoy the right to oppress people but only if you're privileged. Right now we live in a dictatorship of capital, a system build on imperialism and today runs on neocolonialism.

Yet you arent guaranteed shelter, you aren't guaranteed food, you aren't even guaranteed to see more than a sliver of the fruits of your labor. You own nothing, you have nothing, everything that you think you have is crumbling around you as the liberal system falls.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have not posited any political system as an ideal so if you want an actual example of a straw man argument you should look at your response here as you are arguing against points I never made in order to “win” which is what a straw man argument consists of.

If you cannot determine who leads your nation nor what ideology it follows you cannot be free. If a nation cannot legally abandon the central party or an ideology they cannot be free.

How the hell would that be implemented? No genuenly because at least liberals have an ideology, you just seem to be spewing nonsense. So sorry on my end for assuming you had a coherent if not misinformed ideology.

How would what work? How would voting out the central party work? Most free societies don’t have a uniparty state or a specific ideology they must legally adhere to.

you are just angry because you are coming to terms with the fact that you did not only clearly not understand the flaw you accused me of but that you were so unfamiliar that you actually made a straw man argument

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