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Help regarding Archon hunts
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Archon hunts are harder than steel path. I would try to get comfortable in SP before worrying too much about archon hunts. The Fulmin, particularly a 7 forma Fulmin, should be fine for steel path. An upgrade if you like that style of weapon is the Tenet Arca Plasmor.
If you haven't done much SP, I also wonder if you're using weapon arcanes. Primary/Secondary Merciless are a pretty big step up in damage, so I'd start farming steel essense for arcane adapters if you haven't yet.
In terms of guns for Archons, the Zariman Incarnon guns (particularly the Felarx for the archons themselves, and the Laetum for regular mobs) are good choices. The Kuva Hek is another good gun for taking out Archons.
In terms of frames, someone that can stay alive easily like Revenant or Nezha can be a good way to ease yourself into it.
You can one shot archons with kuva hek, it's also a very good weapon outside the hunts, can easily do sp with a regular everyday build. Highly recommend getting it.
I'm omw to get one!
I didn't know Archons were harder than SP, this makes me less worried now. The Tenet Arca Plasmor is one of the drops from Liches and Sisters? I heard about it but never tried to get one.
I think I have 2 primary arcane adapters but never used it by being afraid of using it in the "wrong gun" lol, I'll look into it.
The incarnon guns you're talking about are from the Zariman and not from SP circuit? I thought incarnon guns were exclusively from circuit.
About frames, I have plenty of primes tbh (including Revenant and Nezha), but I don't know how to play most of them. My go to tank is Rhino cuz I'm comfortable with him but I could learn a different tank if needed, my problem is with the mods cuz I'm not sure I'm building it properly. Thanks for all the tips!
Yeah, the levels on the Archon Hunt are comparable to Sedna or the Kuva Fortress in SP (130-150), but with respawns removed. The first planets of SP are only 100.
Primary arcane adapters cost 25 steel essence from Teshin, which is the exact amount of essence you get from doing the 5 daily steel path incursions. Put them on any gun you like, you can always farm more.
Yeah, I'm talking about the original Incarnon weapons from the Zariman, which are distinct from the new Incarnon Adapters you get from the Circuit. You can buy the blueprints from Cavelero with Zariman/Holdfast rep.
Rhino should generally be fine for an Archon hunt, you just need to get good at charging Iron Skin on enemy damage so that you're not constantly recasting (that is, don't cast it until you're in combat so you can build up a big buffer, rather than casting it before you get in combat).
Revenant plays similarly. Mesmer skin has a number of stacks, where any damage removes a stack and gives you a couple seconds of invulnerability. With about 15-20 stacks from a normal cast, that's ~30 seconds of invulnerability if you're constantly getting hit and usually more if you're moving around and dodging. Nezha is just Rhino but faster and more slippery.
Edit: Oh, liches/sisters. Yes, Tenet weapons are from Sisters of Parvos. I'd put them below steel path in terms of difficulty (enemy levels 60-100). Progression-wise, while you don't have to do it before archons, you'll definitely find it easier. Lots of good weapons in both pools.
Revenant's kit may look confusing, but just building for his 2 and your choice of helminth over his 4 are 90% of it.
Build as much strength as you can fit (including his 2 augment). Then add in whatever other stats you want (like duration if you put Roar on him). You don't need any defensive mods.
The "stack" nature of Revenant's 2 means that it scales indefinitely, vs Rhino skin which gets weaker and weaker as enemies get stronger.