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[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 2 days ago

that being said there have been so many "this HAS to be the red line moments" that have passed with nothing

[-] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Iran was pretty serious about their red lines in the last tit for tat. The response by israel to True Promise Two was rather pathetic which is why True Promise Three never happened.

israel forgetting that it had to back down is in line with their habit of believing their own propaganda lies. Its similar to how they forgot about how bad things get when they try to hold ground against The Resistance instead just of bombing civilians. I think they will be shocked by the response to this strike and it may be enough to break them because I don't think Iran will stop until they are done.

[-] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 day ago

It just has to be bad enough that all of the "dual-citizenship" settlers get rattled, unsettle, and fuck off back to where they came from. It's not a country but a project, and its viability ends if it doesn't have enough participants.

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

The response by israel to True Promise Two was rather pathetic which is why True Promise Three never happened.

I disagree. While the Israeli response wasn't as visually impactful as Operation True Promise II, it paved the way for the current Israeli attack that's taking place, taking out the advanced radars for air defence systems. HAWK, S-300, etc.

[-] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This was only ever stated by isisrael. There was little to no evidence that they hit more than one radar dish.

Furthermore if israel felt like Iran was vulnerable to attack there is no reason israel would have stopped at one bombing run. If Iran felt it had lost its defensive capabilities that would be an existential threat and they would have had no choice to make decisive strikes.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's really hard to say how this will play out.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago

I still remember how yesteryear I was replaying Conflict: The Middle East Political Simulator while listening to Al Jazeera, and afterwards I assembled this image as a snarky comment on the Islamic Rep. of Iran launching drones at the occupation. At the time, I did not seriously believe that the Islamic Rep. of Iran was going to invade the occupation, only devastate the IOF. Now? An invasion doesn’t sound that unlikely. Maybe Tehran will limit itself to mere bombardments, but at this point, who knows.

All that I can say with certainty is that I’m mad at how this entire situation has been a waste of everything. A huge waste of Palestinian lives, a waste of the effort and other resources that went into their neighborhoods, a waste of their precious history, a waste of their time, a waste of our planet, and it is all because of this settler-colonial project that never needed to happen.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago
[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Me too, thanks.

[-] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It really depends on how explicitly donald told benny "Do not bomb Iran." I think we'll know a lot based on the tone if/when donald comments on the strikes. I'm leaning towards him being ok with the strike but if he's upset I imagine he will be very upset.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 day ago
[-] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

If this does not erode all trust in the US I do not know what will, right here is an admission the peace talks where just a front to get everyones guard down

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago

he already said he will back up isn'treal if need be

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