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[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 315 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.

Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.

We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.

The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago

We are the majority.

🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 Always have been. That's why conservatives constantly try to make it harder to vote - the more people vote, the more left wing politicians win. Because the majority of people agree with left wing ideals.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

If blue fucking showed up at the boxes more often. (Even just 25% of the people registered as blue) nearly all government seats would flip and change would actually happen for the better. Instead left is actually center and right is facist.

Not necessarily true. People with left wing beliefs often vote for right wing candidates because the only information they have is their tiktok feeds and fox news playing at home.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

No, it is necessarily true, according to the data lol. The higher the voter turnout, the more left wing candidates win. I don't doubt that what you say is true at some level, but it doesn't happen enough to affect the trend of higher voter turnout = more left wing wins.

This has changed. Look at the propensity switch. Low propensity voters back trump by higher margins than high propensity voters since 2020.

Hence why Democrats dominate low turnout special elections these days

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

A couple counterexamples doesn't mean the trend across all elections has changed. And that's what I'm talking about - the trend across all elections.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I know two of these. One is lost to the church, the other is coming around.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago

It's been clear for a long time that the "silent majority" is in fact just an obnoxiously loud minority.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Mean rich people, their deluded lapdogs, and maybe like a thousand honest-to-goodness psychopaths.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 159 points 3 days ago

Gerrymandering and other structural means of disproportionate representation in federal government are big parts of it

[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 92 points 3 days ago

Two words, voter disenfranchisement

They remove the right to vote from our poor, our people of color, our citizens who have made mistakes but paid their debts to society, they remove polling places, making people wait hours and hours standing in lines to vote, giving them water is illegal, they purge voter roles right before elections…. And so so many more things. So many Americans don’t vote because they can’t because our right wing government has put so many roadblocks in the way.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

Because most Americans have knee-jerk reactions to labels as opposed to policies. Like how everyone supports all the protections Obamacare provides, but how they all want to get rid of Obamacare.

also voter suppression gerrymanderinng élite control of the media etc

[-] nickhammes@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Because while a lot of Americans support a lot of left wing positions, there are no major left wing parties, and a very small number of politicians who run for national or statewide office who actually take action to further left wing policies. There's Bernie Sanders, who isn't a member of a large party. AOC, and a few others qualify, but being a small proportion of those running, they're a small proportion of those elected, and have relatively little actual influence.

Ideas neither major party supports are basically impossible to see happen.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

Others have commented valid points but I also wanted to bring up propaganda;

A lot of people are unwilling or even unable (i.e. there is only one tv in the house and you don’t get to control the remote most of the time) to get their news from sources that aren’t constantly telling them that Democrats are out to get them and 2SLGBTQIA+ are the enemy and that if they just vote for (wealthy conservative) then all their problems will be solved overnight. Couple that with an education system that has failed to give people the critical thinking skills to ask what trans folk have to do with the economy and you get the 2024 election.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The fact that there are so many valid reasons makes me extremely unhopeful.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

To make you more hopeful, they have to constantly fight to keep these systems of oppression in place. We win if/when this stops. All we have to do is keep fighting them. Make them work to oppress us, and it'll crumble.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

So the electoral college and the apportionment act will go away, too?

And Americans won’t be a bunch of fucking idiots with the attention span of a goldfish?

And we’ll get proportional representation when they crumble?

Because most of the issues pointed out are structural and have nothing to do with Trump

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Well, either they will be fixed or the state collapses eventually. If they keep this up people lose faith in the government.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago

My take is that there are a lot of Left people who won't vote for anyone except a candidate they support 100%. Hilary Clinton should have destroyed Trump. Those people ignore the simple truth that any time any GOP gets elected the whole country moves to the right.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Money, Propaganda, Tribalism, an undemocratic voting system...

Further, the uneveness of Power is gigantic: billionaires have way much power than common people, who are only powerful if together in large numbers and that's incredibly hard to make happen in a structured way with everybody aligned in the same way compared with what a single billionaire can do if they feel like spending $100 million, and the entire system is set up against people organising in such a way - notice how the biggest demonstration ever in the US, the George Floyd protests, achieved pretty much nothing at all, and the police in the US is still a force of Injustice rather than Justice.

The vast majority of people are either played like fiddles or made to feel impotent and hence just turn of from politics and just live day to day.

The US is not a Democracy.

In one word: money.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

As others pointed out, there's major structural issues. There's also issues with apathy and people buying into the anti-electoralism/accelerationism con with religious ferver.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

It's not hard to be anti-electoral when elections don't seem to ever fucking work

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

You're not wrong but, that's really the trap that many of us on the Left hand fallen for. It takes a long time to build things and make positive changes in the face of resistance from moneyed interests. Leftists refusing to participate in every election, including primaries, is a good part of how we got here in the first place. Non-voters are the largest bloc and, with surveys consistently showing Left-of-Center policies to be popular with the populace overall, it's safe to assume that the Overton window could be dragged to a better place if they bothered to participate and participate consistently in a calculated manner.

It is absolutely infuriating, indeed, to see all efforts being for nought, though. In less than a year, almost a century of progress has been undone and that would not have been possible if people had been voting stategically. At this point, I'm certain that things will not get appreciably better in my lifetime.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And if things won’t get better, why bother?

I’ve been voting as much as possible and doing the other things for a quarter century and we’ve always gotten further from what I’m hoping for.

I wasted all that time and money and stress and have nothing to show for it.

Politics is dumb and people are terrible. I want to leave the planet.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago

You've got extremely valid feelings. Mine are quite similar. I do find myself asking "what's the fucking point?" far more often than I'd like.

Rather like the classic "what's the meaning of life?", I don't think that anyone can answer that for anyone else. For me, it's a love of my fellow human beings and belief that, based upon historical evidence, authoritarianism's grip on society always crumbles. It might take a World War, or it may take centuries of insurgency, but it is inevitable. In order for that to happen, people need to experience kindness and empathy. And people need to be willing to be builders, rather than just violent fighters (every society founded in violence and bloodshed has been vulnerable to authoritarians coopting the movement). So, I keep pushing because it might help others when I'm gone. Hell, maybe it will help lead to the cultural and psychological changes necessary to approach the anarchic society of my ideals (I don't think I'll ever directly have that much influence or desire it but every small bit helps).

And there's also spite. Authoritarians of all flavors are fundamentally cruel douchebags and the current ones are exceptionally stupid to boot (and revel in their anti-intellectualism). Continued resistance and standing up for people and showing them kindness really gets under their skin and I'm a big fan of that.

Politics is dumb and people are terrible. I want to leave the planet.

Yup. Me too buddy. Me too.

I might suggest, if you're able, looking about for local (non-political) nonprofit orgs to see if there are any that really align with what you think is important. Helping others in a tangible manner can really help to stave off apathy.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

because Dems allowed gerrymandering to go without protest

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

The electorial college and gerrymandering

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Mainly because your average person is apathetic to their own governenance

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

Because the left keeps falling in with the ineffectual center-right, leading to widespread voter disillusionment.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

100%. Republicans have been blatantly against the will of the people, and can only maintain power through gerrymandering and straight up rigging elections. We are the majority by a long shot. The last election was likely rigged, and the heritage foundation, Trump, and Putin are working on the business plot 2. We have to do everything possible to stop it.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

Also, if memory serves, the right wing group the 3 percenters got their name because it only took 3% of the population to initiate change at some historical event.

Ergo, it doesn’t take that many people to get out and change the nation, but ffs you got to get out

[-] M137@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

It seems like the ' in the word "don't" somehow fell down and landed on the floor right after the word "people" in your last sentence. Might wanna pick it up and place it where it belongs.

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