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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

You guys think that merely walking around in your own time holding up a board and shouting a bit, all focused on the mango puppet instead of the puppet masters, is going to change anything given that there is no single Historical event in the US ever of the lower classes rebelling against and deposit the upper classes (even the Revolution was literally the American plebs led by the American upper class fighting against the English plebs controlled by the English upper class)?!

The murder of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare had more impact, if only temporary because it wasn't followed by more similar murders.

Even millions of people marching and shouting a bit (and so polite that they do it in their own time) will cause no fear for the elites because that's in no way a warning that the heads of the elites will soon start getting separated from their shoulders if nothing changes.

You need at the very least a General Strike and/or targetting the economic and propaganda interests of the elites (trashing the TV studios of certain channels or certain newspapers would send a powerful message).

I mean, just notice the impact on police violence of the greatest demonstrations in the US - the George Floyd protests: nothing or even worse than nothing as the pigs have never been this violent.

[-] glitching@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 minutes ago

not to rain on the parade or nothing, but a protest that hasn't the implicit threat of "...or else" is just a hang

[-] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 8 points 4 hours ago

It feels good to know that lots of other Americans care about what's going on. I don't know if we're going to make it but I felt like part of a country out there and I hope we figure it out.

[-] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 7 hours ago
[-] barkingspiders@infosec.pub 8 points 4 hours ago

Seriously, there will be more, I don't think we've seen the biggest ones yet either.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 57 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

1 George Floyd protests 500,000[5] 15,000,000–26,000,000 2020

2 Earth Day 20,000,000[6] 1970

3 No Kings protests 5,000,000 2025

4 Hands Across America (poverty) 5,000,000 1986

5 2017 Women's March 3,300,000–4,600,000

[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 22 minutes ago

Did any of these have any lasting impact?

[-] Reviever@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)
[-] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 3 points 9 minutes ago

Ok I will. Yes

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 238 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Literally all of these except number 23 and 31 are left wing protests.

Let that sink in 32/34 that’s over 94% of the biggest protests in the US were left wing.

We are the majority. Stop believing in the Reagenesque “silent majority” BS.

The majority of people, dont want oligarchs and conservative bigotry.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 hours ago

We are the majority.

🌍🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀 Always have been. That's why conservatives constantly try to make it harder to vote - the more people vote, the more left wing politicians win. Because the majority of people agree with left wing ideals.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

100%. Republicans have been blatantly against the will of the people, and can only maintain power through gerrymandering and straight up rigging elections. We are the majority by a long shot. The last election was likely rigged, and the heritage foundation, Trump, and Putin are working on the business plot 2. We have to do everything possible to stop it.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 31 points 11 hours ago

It's been clear for a long time that the "silent majority" is in fact just an obnoxiously loud minority.

[-] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 hours ago

Mean rich people, their deluded lapdogs, and maybe like a thousand honest-to-goodness psychopaths.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 hours ago

Also, if memory serves, the right wing group the 3 percenters got their name because it only took 3% of the population to initiate change at some historical event.

Ergo, it doesn’t take that many people to get out and change the nation, but ffs you got to get out

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago

Then why is the government so completely dominated by the right if most politically active people are on what Americans call the left?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

Money, Propaganda, Tribalism, an undemocratic voting system...

Further, the uneveness of Power is gigantic: billionaires have way much power than common people, who are only powerful if together in large numbers and that's incredibly hard to make happen in a structured way with everybody aligned in the same way compared with what a single billionaire can do if they feel like spending $100 million, and the entire system is set up against people organising in such a way - notice how the biggest demonstration ever in the US, the George Floyd protests, achieved pretty much nothing at all, and the police in the US is still a force of Injustice rather than Justice.

The vast majority of people are either played like fiddles or made to feel impotent and hence just turn of from politics and just live day to day.

The US is not a Democracy.

[-] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 hours ago

In one word: money.

[-] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 123 points 15 hours ago

Gerrymandering and other structural means of disproportionate representation in federal government are big parts of it

[-] nickhammes@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago

Because while a lot of Americans support a lot of left wing positions, there are no major left wing parties, and a very small number of politicians who run for national or statewide office who actually take action to further left wing policies. There's Bernie Sanders, who isn't a member of a large party. AOC, and a few others qualify, but being a small proportion of those running, they're a small proportion of those elected, and have relatively little actual influence.

Ideas neither major party supports are basically impossible to see happen.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 8 hours ago

As others pointed out, there's major structural issues. There's also issues with apathy and people buying into the anti-electoralism/accelerationism con with religious ferver.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

It's not hard to be anti-electoral when elections don't seem to ever fucking work

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

because Dems allowed gerrymandering to go without protest

[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 71 points 14 hours ago

Two words, voter disenfranchisement

They remove the right to vote from our poor, our people of color, our citizens who have made mistakes but paid their debts to society, they remove polling places, making people wait hours and hours standing in lines to vote, giving them water is illegal, they purge voter roles right before elections…. And so so many more things. So many Americans don’t vote because they can’t because our right wing government has put so many roadblocks in the way.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 21 points 13 hours ago

Others have commented valid points but I also wanted to bring up propaganda;

A lot of people are unwilling or even unable (i.e. there is only one tv in the house and you don’t get to control the remote most of the time) to get their news from sources that aren’t constantly telling them that Democrats are out to get them and 2SLGBTQIA+ are the enemy and that if they just vote for (wealthy conservative) then all their problems will be solved overnight. Couple that with an education system that has failed to give people the critical thinking skills to ask what trans folk have to do with the economy and you get the 2024 election.

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[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago

Because most Americans have knee-jerk reactions to labels as opposed to policies. Like how everyone supports all the protections Obamacare provides, but how they all want to get rid of Obamacare.

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[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 41 points 13 hours ago

This makes me really hopeful.

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[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 64 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I was about to say the list was incomplete as several million attended the Iraq war protests, but it turns out that was global and only a few hundred k Americans bothered to protest the invasion of Iraq based on manufactured propaganda.

The post 9/11 bloodthirsty hysteria, "you're either with us or against us" dissonance, religious nationalism, and ignorant patriotism is what made me believe the US would become an authoritarian dictatorship in my lifetime. Great job teenage me. I hate it.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

That was the first overt demonstration that American news outlets were captured by jingoist propaganda. But back then pointing out that media coverage differed from literal experienced reality got you labeled as a terrorist kook.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 hours ago

I think you may have misread the Wikipedia page. There were 300-400,000 in NYC alone.

I was in Boston and there were 10s of thousands, even though it was February and sleeting, SF had another 150-200k.

I think there was a sizable group in DC too.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

That's what I thought but those are the "official" estimates, which do strangely focus on NYC.

I guess we're talking about a fascist-oligarch-owned MSM who profit from war and chaos so they had a vested interest to suppress the real opposition.

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[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 39 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

7 out of top 10 during Trump's presidential terms. My take is that civil duty to protest is stronger than voting for non-Republicans, maybe if elections were on saturdays instead of tuesdays...

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