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Why are American cops allowed to be morbidly obese?
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this post was submitted on 08 Jun 2025
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Cities in pretty much the entire country are running with an understaffed police force. They'll take what they can get. I'm 100% pro Union, but another problem is that police unions help protect unfit (literally and figuratively) police from being forced to try harder by abusing protected status health claims. I've seen in both police and military, they are handed paperwork if they are not meeting fitness expectations, but nothing ever comes of it.
Police unions are the only bad union.
All labor unions are good. Police unions are not.
This is because police unions are not labor unions, since police are not labor but rather the enforcers for the owner class.
They’re illegal in many other countries
Cops aren’t exploited workers, they are armed agents of the state. They are not your friends, allies, etc. And whether or not they are human is entirely debatable. I’ve never seen any evidence to suggest it.
They have representation in other ways. For instance in Britain, where it is illegal for police to unionise, there is instead a government-funded Police Federation, which independently advocates for police working conditions and supplies advice and representation for police in disciplinary affairs. The main difference from a union is that it is free to members and that police are not allowed to go on strike. This removes a lot of the worst abuses of power.
So bad in fact, they’ve often made me wonder if any union is worth it if that’s the risk of what they could become.
With that mindset, why bother living or leaving the bed? Imagine the worst day you could have, why risk it?
Sure, take it 100% literally. Don’t relate to the thought process at all.
You all can’t be serious in that you haven’t thought the same thing. I didn’t say it 100% makes all unions bad I just shared a thought I occasionally have because of how bad the police union is in America.
But yeah let’s fight with each other about it instead of eating the rich, good plan.
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Your though process is wrong. You need to backpedal it. One bad apple doesn't mean we should burn the orchard. And you can perverse anything good into an abomination.
How you want to do that without unions? Dude, saying out loud
Is not helping anyone.
Take an L and do better.
Again, you’re either not understanding what I’m actually saying or taking it literally on purpose to troll me. Either way, I’m not gonna waste my time 😘 👋
"They'll take what they can get." Except for the smart ones. https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
...well shit. Too smart to be an officer is a thing.
Counterpoint: Americans are already overpoliced and the "understaffing" is only relative to the authoritarians' desire to make us even more so.
I...i didnt realize this needed staffing...
France doesn’t let the police unionize, it’s the only group in the country explicitly and expressly forbade from unionizing. Police should never be allowed to unionize
The only group that can't unionize is the military, there's plenty of police unions in France.
And they unionize a lot.