379
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by jimmy@feddit.org to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Authoritarian Islamic fundamentalism.

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Awww, you've been reading newspapers again.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

As opposed to western "Divine Secular Absolutism"? Real funny looking words you got there, when stringed together.

Authoritarianism is a dumb, useless and meaningless term, when you understand that every state assumes authority (name me one country that doesn't assume authority, therefore isn't "authoritarian").

1979 happened because you libs couldn't stop trying to meddle in Iran's affairs.

Coulda saved spared us from the dogwhistle by just saying "they're not white".

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Imagine trying to explain the concept of authority like a dipshit and then end it with an accusation of racism.

Could never be me lmao.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I can imagine, because it's almost always true of chronically Western libs parroting State Department buzzwords. Not really beating the allegations here.

Name one country that doesn't assume authority.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

Authoritarian as in not allowing westerners to take over the country resources.

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago

insert burger index goodness report here

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee -2 points 12 hours ago

No, Authoritarian as in not allowing women to have basic human rights.

This is why I don't like tankies. You claim to be leftist but always support countries with right-wing policies. Lemmygrad has turned your brain to mush.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

There are thousands of videos of foreigneirs strolling in Iran where you can see women walking around freely, the narrative youre spewing is a stupid propaganda point to justify a bloody war with Iran.

There is no such thing as a "leftist" that supports a bloody invasion to "liberate women".

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 hours ago

Noooooo Karl Marx would absolutely support capitalist dropping nuclear bombs on Iranian children

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

as a western leftist i am willing to sacrifice millions of lives of irani people because the new york times told me women were oppressed you brainwashed tankie!

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

tankies

Mom, I said it again

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive and not have to stay covered up and unable to move around or do anything eithout a man and don't support child marriage.

Hope this distinction helps!

To be clear fuck Israel they started this shit with Iran and I dont support it. But for you to say Iran isn't authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.

[-] impolite7537@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

How dare you criticize sharia in a lemmy.ml community you liberul??? The only thing that Iran is guilty of out of all the stuff that you listed is that they have mandatory clothing laws, but it's really just a cultural choice really, you're just brainwashed by the West's Divine Secular Absolutism which allows people to dress... freely😱😱😱. And 9 y.o. children getting married isn't a state policy you propagandist! It's just legal, that doesn't make it a state policy now does it?

And you're wrong!!! Women are allowed to drive in Iran. They just can't leave the country or anything without her husband's permission, and make sure that her hijab is not loose or she might get killed by state police.

I hope with the replies of Lemmy's beautiful Erdoganists, you have come to realize that Iran isn't a shithole Yet Another Middle Eastern Reactionary Shariah, it's a Far-Left Utopian Theocracy.

TLDR: Just switch to Lemmy.World's c/privacy ffs

[-] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

out of these things you said, so far iran is guilty of only requiring women to stay covered and, to a degree, child marriage (it's not a state policy, but marriage with girls as young as 9 years old is legal). as far as i know women in iran can drive (the last country where women were not allowed to drive was US ally saudi arabia) and are free to move around, work, study and such, notwithstanding the challenges that women face there (legal discrimination and the oppression that they suffer just by living in a capitalist country).

however, the liberation of women in iran won't come imposed by other nation states, especially the western capitalist ones, and certainly won't come as a result of a war against israel. they don't give a damn about the iranian people, be they women, queer, religious or ethnic minorities. the sionist establishment just want anyone that menace their grip over middle east off their necks, and that's what the iranian bourgeoisie are doing right now.

if you ask me what i think would be better, the working classes of both countries would team up to seize their military apparatuses and turn them against their elites. if that's not possible, anything that hurts western imperialism gives the world a small victory, regardless of whoever achieves them. we can take care of whoever punches the west later.

[-] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

is ignorant of the facts.

didn't google if Iran allows women to drive

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 4 points 13 hours ago

The Enlightened Centrist has entered the chat!

Of course you focus on women because that's the desirable group of objects of which you most desire, so you project your desires on to "helpless", "hapless" women who need your "civilized" and "noble" ass "saving" from these "dirty barbaric orcs".

Every state has authority over its citizens but some of them let women drive

Women can drive in Iran.

not have to stay covered up

As opposed to Europeans depriving women of their dignities and forcing them to stay as uncovered as possible?

Dear white people of France: being forced to undress wasn't exactly the liberation I was longing for

Palestinian women detail Israeli sexual assaults in Kamal Adwan raid

unable to move around or do anything eithout a man

Iranian women can move around freely, it was definitely a much bigger case then for sure, but nowadays it's literally a non-issue..

don’t support child marriage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago

One nitpick on your post, you posted the age of concent not the age of allowable marrage, in in some places those are diffrent numbers

This from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States shows the earliest allowable marrage age in each state, and I promise you California's age of concent is greater than 0

[-] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

I deliberately did that to basically demonstrate Western chauvinism in its rawest form. It's greater magnitudes more fucked up than anything chauvinists blab about. Also what the fuck is California lol.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

I only brought it up because I know in the US marrage laws are often the same or lower than out age of consent laws (from wikipedia) so I think the marrage laws are more damning, atleast in the US

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I have never seen evidence that women are not allowed to drive, and I have had Iranians tell me the contrary. IRNA Irans state news if it was not down from likely DDOS I would show you posted an immage of one of the dead from Israels attack, was a women without a head covering, agian there is no evidence I can find that it is a law, just a large cultural preference. Same think with a women in Iran being dependent on a man, I have seen no evidence for this outside of the Western press.

I just want to ask a clarification, are you saying anti-child marriage is a bad thing???

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

But for you to say Iran isn’t authoritarian is ignorant of the facts.

We are not ignorant of the facts, but you are ignorant of your carrying water for Western imperialism. Which is understandable thanks to a lifetime of propaganda, but it’s never too late to stop.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 hours ago

oh honey

why do you think it's that way

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

the new york times told me so i repeat every chance i get.

[-] Jaderick@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I’m well aware that the British and US lead a coup to reinstall the Shah, which ultimately caused the Iranian Revolution. Islamic fundamentalism was definitely not the answer.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

It has been their answer because a ideologically strong and intolerant leadership is what you need when foreign power are invading your politics and coup-ing your governments.

You don't want to end up geopolitically cucked like Ethiopia or India or China. So you install brutal monster who put people repeating foreign power talking points, into an industrial blender.

Anyone who thinks that's not great, great! Stop doing to the coup shit. Find a CIA mind slave and explain why the oxygen they're breathing could feed some african child.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

You sure have a lot of fucking attitude for someone criticizing people for not being your slaves. Pretty crazy you have the fucking nerve to criticize in the first place. Almost like you think they should have stayed your slaves and that would have been better.

this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2025
379 points (99.7% liked)

Privacy

38963 readers
1497 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS