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[-] Lordbaum@mander.xyz 26 points 1 year ago

Fuck tankies, abolish money (and the state and the class society when we are already on it)

[-] DBVegas@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

What magical step do you think is going to get us to abolish money and have a classless moneyless society? You need a vanguard communist party to use the state apparatus to destroy the bourgeoisie in a transitory socialist phase before achieving communism (said classless moneyless society).

[-] Lordbaum@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry for the late response but what always puzzles me how do you enforce freedom I mean these are more or less contradicting things. The only way I can imagen people getting liberated is by first liberating themselves and then cooperate with like minded individuals to create a grass roots organization that's destroys and replace the old system. And not just replacing it's leadership. I mean we tried it, but it ended up being spoiled like the former leaders/system1. ( if more or less worse is debatable) it even crushed like minded individuals in the process. What I want to say people can only be free if they want to be free and if you give them a chance to develop them freely and that the means mark the ends. I myself don't know the complete plan and picture how a revolution will happen and how it will look at the end, but I have some ideas in my Head which I will work (for example promoting an gift and library economy as well as helping some orgs) to help my comrades and support the revolution. I just ask you to not make the same mistakes that our ancestors did, comrade.

[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

Sounds pretty tankie to me

[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 year ago

fuck tankies

abolish class society

lenin facepalm

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

You can be a communist without being a fucking tankie. Fuck off back to lemmygrad.

[-] WideningGyro@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

I'd love for you to explain exactly what you mean by "tankie"

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

I think it means someone who likes doing whippets, not sure why they're bringing it up here tho

[-] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

That's a wook.

Tankie Is a guy that likes propane over charcoal.

[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's always just leftists who aren't western brand "leftists", i.e. completely averse to action and change.

Libs will demonize all forms of action and analysis of oppression and then wonder why things just keep getting worse despite them doing a lot of useless, performative things. In the lack of a correct theory, it always comes down to "it's those damn Asians!!!!"

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, we both know what I mean, don't try to sealion this. You can fuck off back to Hexbear.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

The point is it tankie is an amorphous McCarthyist insult. No one knows exactly what you're saying because most of the people who use it aren't on exactly the same page. I've been called a tankie for supporting Cuba's new family code and the intensely democratic process behind it and for saying the taean work system is a good system.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago
[-] captcha@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

"Woke" on foreign policy...

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

We really don't know. Unless your definition is someone who supported the Soviet Union sending in tanks to put down the coup in Hungary, then its pretty devoid of meaning

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

buddy, we're already on Hexbear, that's how federation works

There are 2 types:

  1. Marxist-Leninist - followers of the ideology of the Stalinist counter-revolution. These people are still around but are barely relevant anymore since the fall of the USSR.

  2. Terminally online leftoid who thinks they're a Marxist-Leninist, is really just a soc-dem who hates America and likes soviet aesthetics. Believes a ton of mutually contradictory shit because they don't take communism seriously and get all their info from memes and other terminally online leftoids.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

The pure (libertarian) socialists' ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except the ones that succeed.

parenti

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

How? By not supporting any AES or any revolution that succeeded?

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

abolish money (and the state and the class society when we are already on it)

And how do you propose we actually go about doing this?

[-] rubpoll@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago
[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago
[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

What makes you think they like fox news?

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bruh what part of that made you think they watch Faux News?

Oh, lemmygrad. Away, tankie

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Do you support the US sending cluster bombs, rockets and tanks to Ukraine?

[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Sure do. Ukraine can certainly make far better use of them defending their homes, than the US ever did using them for anything.

If Russia didn't want Ukraine using cluster bombs, rockets, and tanks, they shouldn't have used them first. Fight fire with fire.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

This Film Is Dedicated To The Brave Mujahideen Fighters Of Afghanistan

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You do realize Ukraine is using those cluster bombs on their own territory right?

For the next 30 years Ukrainian children will have their arms blown off playing catch with friends in the park, and you’re cheering

“Defending their territory”

You’re a gutless bloodthirsty pearl clutcher

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay tankie

A nazi-loving one too, how neat

If Ukraine didn't want Russia using cluster bombs, rockets, and tanks, they shouldn't have tried to do a genocide in the Donbasvivian-shrug

[-] wanderingmagus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Slava Ukraini and kill the bear. Ready to set condition 1SQ for strategic nuclear launch. Hooyah America. Come and get some.

[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago
[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Why do you think you're a communist?

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