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Countries and borders are an arbitrary concept created during the peace treaty of Westphalia.
Those relics belong to dead people.
No, it belongs to a community. Does something stop belonging to a people if the original creators die? No.
That way nobody owns any land, because it belongs to the amoeba.
Returning the artifacts is meant to be a good will gesture, and a sort of a reparation (in lieu of the actual reparations) for all the horrible colonial era crimes that were propagated not more than even 100 years ago.
Attributing modern concepts of borders to Westphalia is a Eurocentric worldview. What, you don't think they had the concept of statehood and sovereignty in Asia for at least a few thousand years prior to this?
Stealing this foolproof argument for when I next apply for a UK visa to go to British Museum. Thanks!
Yeah, it's definitely a little questionable when the people currently inhabiting the land have no direct connection to the people who made the artifacts. And then you got shit like this. Or this. Or this.
So? It's their right to do as is with their land. It may not be great (also be cherry picked), but it is their right.
This is the exact reasoning that was given for colonialism and slavery.
"These barbarians can't take care of themselves, they need civilization and christianity and they need to work for us to have good lives."
Colonist ass mindset. They'll destroy their own lands, pollute their environment and then hoard other people's culture because they don't want to admit they were shitty in the past.
As an American, we should be shipping our arts out of the country before the current regime decides it's subversive to the regime and burn it. Especially any art made by minorities, opposition or in places that might get bombed(any coastal city).
Hot take: all artifacts should be located in the most geopolitically stable area possible
Hotter take: un peacekeepers should protect world heritage sites with weapons-free orders