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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I haved discussions with others here where its people are just not happy with baby steps and want full change right away. Problem is we need to make more friends not enemies with each other.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've started to make a habit on the internet to make amends and give grace to people who get upset in the comments as fast as possible. Textual online spaces are seemingly quite prone to disagreement, so it's a huge help just to mindfully counteract that tendency.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 month ago

Well easy for you my brave little Hitachi wand! Who can stay angry at you!

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It helps if you're fun.

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ball big. Need lots of hands. Take long time move. Come. Help. Roll big ball with us.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Also, we don't actually know which way we need to roll it. Some people have strong ideas, other understand the vague direction but there's lots of invisible obstacles strewn across the landscape, and whenever we hit one there are a hundred different people with a thousand different explanations about what the fuck just happened.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It bothers me that I see genocide trivialize so often, like implying it's a full step that needs to wait. The problem is that they would rather take the steps that help Israel commit heinous acts then start with small steps that benefit their constituents.

Stopping the sale of weapons to a apartheid state committing genocide and condemning them is now seen as too much? I can't expect anything good to come from them if that's the kind of slack we insist on giving.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

They had the same foreign policy every administration since Israel became a country did but some people chose now to get upset about it.

The world is a worse place now because Harris didn't win.

Biden second term would have be heaven compared to this.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's almost like if blatant genocide changes the equation. Honestly, Israel should have lost our support a long time ago. It's easy to see how deep corruption and most likely black mail had a big role to play.

Yes, the world would be a better place with Harris at the helm. It's a shame she tried her hardest to lose. FYI, I voted for her but I'm also mature enough to realize that she basically gave all her voters the finger and that's why she lost.

Keep blaming the evil voters who couldn't stomach genocide and we will get the exact same play next election. You are enabling, not helping. It's their job to get votes and care about our opinion ffs.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Single issue voters always make the world a worse place.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

I find it crazier that the dems decided to make genocide a voting issue in the first place. Weaponized incompetence, I swear. They could have told Israel to pound sand, but they chose a foreign state over us. They screwed you too man, have a spine.

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Nah, people who didn't vote for Harris screwed the world.

Glad to hear you're not one of them.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, but it's not the ONLY thing going on. Would you let the rest of the world burn to stop genocide in the middle east? I'm guessing not.

So if there is a massive problem that we can't directly take action to fix, you try to attack the source of the problem or other adjacent problems.

This idea that the Dems need to be fully against it or I'll never vote for them is naive. If the alternative is WW3 with 10x the deaths or continued genocide I don't like either but I'm not going to sit on the sidelines while WW3 starts and complain about the dems stance as the reason I didn't try to prevent it. Maintaining a moral high ground at the expense of people isn't ok. Yes they could have done a million things better or different, but they didn't. We had a choice to make with the options we had. Some people rejected reality and ushered in this shit storm so they could keep their concussion clean, it's selfish. They'd rather have peace of mind than actually prevent suffering, because they had a chance to and didn't.

There are other people, other children suffering because of Trump that would not have been if Harris won. That's just fact. Preventing him from getting in office or not, the events in the middle east remain the same, but those other lives impacted could have been prevented. We need to open up our world view and have it grounded in reality.

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