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Of course. I am a big fan of the original Doom games (Heretic and Hexen included) myself. But still, I feel like these are exceptions, not the rule.
It still depends on the genre and what games you are exposed to. Super Mario Bros 3 is still the best 2D platformer of all time, I am not aware of any indie game even close to the polish of SMB3.
I'd say both DKC2 and Super Mario World easily best Mario Bros 3.
But not that you mention it, there is a lack of indie platformers that are good.
I agree that I can't talk about genres I'm not familiar with, like platformers and action games (which I guess are the best contenders for retro gamers). With that said, even when I played through widely acclaimed as one of the best RPGs - Ultima 4, I still couldn't enjoy it. I'm curious how common this experience with popular retro games.
I think Ultima 4 is over rated. FF6, Secret of Mana, Chrono trigger, and even Earthbound I'd say are better (Earthbound was way ahead of it's time by having weak enemies run away from you in the overworld too).
Kudos for acknowledging it.
I cannot really think of any indie action game that came close to Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden II, God Hand… etc.
That said, I've seen a lot of people claim Hollow Knight is better than Castlevania: SotN, so it's definitely genre-dependent.