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I always loved retro-style games, long before I learned that they're considered retro. I'm not sure what makes them so fun but they completely dominate my gaming nowadays.

Naturally, I became curious about the games that had inspired my favorite titles. I tried many of them, and eventually came to a conclusion: most of the time, retro games are nothing but a historical curiosity.

Ultima 4 has fairly unique concept but falls flat with its roleplaying feeling forced, its bland gameplay and its setting with no originality whatsoever.
Compare this to Moonring. Gameplay rivals many modern roguelikes (the classic definition, so Brogue, not Isaac), great setting that sucks you in immediately, and so so many mysteries.

Ambermoon pretends to be an open world RPG but is actually a linear RPG-lite with combat feeling more like a puzzle (and a wrong solution punishes you by 15 mins of you and your opponents missing each other every turn).

That's not to say that retro games aren't important - the modern indies are standing on the shoulders of giants. Yet I can't say that retro games worth the trouble of getting into them, compared to the polished modern indie titles.

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[-] catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Of course. I am a big fan of the original Doom games (Heretic and Hexen included) myself. But still, I feel like these are exceptions, not the rule.

[-] cloudless@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago

It still depends on the genre and what games you are exposed to. Super Mario Bros 3 is still the best 2D platformer of all time, I am not aware of any indie game even close to the polish of SMB3.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

I'd say both DKC2 and Super Mario World easily best Mario Bros 3.

But not that you mention it, there is a lack of indie platformers that are good.

[-] catfeeder@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I agree that I can't talk about genres I'm not familiar with, like platformers and action games (which I guess are the best contenders for retro gamers). With that said, even when I played through widely acclaimed as one of the best RPGs - Ultima 4, I still couldn't enjoy it. I'm curious how common this experience with popular retro games.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

I think Ultima 4 is over rated. FF6, Secret of Mana, Chrono trigger, and even Earthbound I'd say are better (Earthbound was way ahead of it's time by having weak enemies run away from you in the overworld too).

[-] mohab@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

I agree that I can't talk about genres I'm not familiar with, like platformers and action games

Kudos for acknowledging it.

I cannot really think of any indie action game that came close to Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden II, God Hand… etc.

That said, I've seen a lot of people claim Hollow Knight is better than Castlevania: SotN, so it's definitely genre-dependent.

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