Razor bumps can now get you kicked out of the marines. Black men will likely suffer the most (www.the-independent.com)

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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The recent policy update under Brig. Gen. David R. Everly reversed a 2022 rule". This "rule" is very new and was likely found to harm wartime readiness after trying it out.

Likely according to what evidence? You’re making an assumption here. I have zero reason to assume good faith with Trump and Hegseth changing anything right now, why should you?

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29283316/ from 2018 says there's problems with even really short lengths of beard...

But you're correct in that I don't have any evidence that the military found or validated the same findings internally. I think it's more likely than not though.

Edit: Actually I do have some minor proof that they know there's issues... But it's covered in the same "it's really understudied" caveat that I put in the post itself. Not worth really discussing IMO.

Edit2: I'd even disbelieve that Trump knows enough about the military to find out that they could use this to be frank...

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

from 2018 says there's problems with even really short lengths of beard...

You are making claims that weren't in the article. That studies conclusiion were

"Conclusion: Beard length and areal density negatively influence FF. However, tight-fitting half-face negative-pressure respirator fit tests can achieve adequate fit factor scores even with substantial facial hair in the face seal area."

Plus your original claim was that razor bumps would negatively impact the fit, not short length beards. You're moving the goalposts.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Plus your original claim was that razor bumps would negatively impact the fit, not short length beards. You’re moving the goalposts.

No it wasn't... but you go ahead and keep lying to yourself. You can scroll up and read it for yourself.

And to preempt an argument… “there’s no study that says beards/razor bumps interfere with gas masks”… There are. Most of them say minimal beards/hair is fine (less than 1/16th of an inch) to get a mask seal, where 1/8 can already lead to issues. But it’s understudied. The risk of getting it wrong is people’s lives.

Note that the quoted section is not "me" saying it, but a response to that general topic/discussion.

But we've already discussed this ad nauseam, so you can stop following me around now.

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