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Taleb dunking on IQ “research” at length. Technically a seriouspost I guess.

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[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's gonna take me a bit to figure out how to use the website for NLSY79 so bear with me on that.

The youngest of the cohort in 1979 was 14, since segregation was only officially ended in 1965, it once again seems more likely the legacy of segregation and America's continued racist culture had a larger impact on outcomes than IQ test scores to me.

But, I'm a biologist not a sociologist, so not really my field of expertise.

Edit: the National Longitudinal Study of Youth doesn't even test for IQ, this has been a waste of time.

[-] self@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

sorry you had to deal with this lying racist shithead. let me know if hexbear deals with them in a satisfactory way — it’s always good to know how other instances deal with “polite” racist shitheads who try to slip their bullshit in under a thin veneer of misapplied science

[-] hexi@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

The youngest of the cohort in 1979 was 14, since segregation was only officially ended in 1965, it once again seems more likely the legacy of segregation and America's continued racist culture had a larger impact on outcomes than IQ test scores to me.

Everything in this ignores what I said in my first comment: this persists within the same racial group

Segregation explains nothing about why people of the same race would perform differently based on IQ scores when they were young.

the National Longitudinal Study of Youth doesn't even test for IQ, this has been a waste of time.

Yes it does, it's one of the most widely cited studies for IQ research. My uni had the class do a research project based on this study, you might just be looking at the wrong page.

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yes it does, it's one of the most widely cited studies for IQ research. My uni had the class do a research project based on this study, you might just be looking at the wrong page.

It doesn't, see attached screenshot of tests carried out on the cohort.

[-] hexi@hexbear.net -1 points 1 year ago

The ASVAB is considered one of the accepted forms of IQ tests, as long it is proctored, like the NLSY does.

Other studies might use other IQ tests like the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale or Raven's Progressive Matrices Test.

[-] WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The use of ASVAB score as a stand-in for IQ is contentious amongst researchers.

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What's more, higher scores on WAIS and ASVAB are even less correlated with eachother than lower scores.

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