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Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn't want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

One of the few times "both sides" is not only accurate but appropriate.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Maybe it's accurate more than you think

[-] admin@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

If people can come together on this, it could be the moment the USA tears down the entire establishment and probably gets rid of the two-party system.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

God I wish I had that naive enthusiasm still.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Sadly, that won't happen if both D's and R's have people or large financial supporters on the list. Best case I can imagine is that those top people end up in jail which shakes up both parties. The 2 party system is a result of our voting system (winner takes all for most positions), so it's bad to have a 3rd party similar to your own (which gets your own voters potentially siphoned off), or have be a 3rd party similar to another party (which means you're weakening the party closest to your own, and helping the party most different from yours). regardless of whether it affects the 2 party system, getting that list published is important for justice.

[-] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

It's likely heavily reinforced by your voting system but 2 party systems aren't unique to that system, even in theoretically better voting systems you frequently end up with very similar results. Australia as a case in point. That said if current electoral trends continue we could be seeing the end of that here and at least our system theoretically allows that to happen.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Different policies, same people.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

This is also the same thing that makes them vastly different.

We call for the heads of the corrupt on our side instead of worship them.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Ive heard that many Republicans are pissed at Trump and Co about the lack of progress here since child trafficking was a big part of the QAnon bullshit. On the left, many people were willing to forgive genocide to get a paltry win at the ballot box so I can't say either side really has the high ground.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No, "the left" HAS NEVER forgiven genocide. In fact, that's a BIG part of why Harris lost: many actual leftists couldn't stomach voting for someone that was going to continue support for Israel.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Forgive may be a bit generous, at least in a lot of cases, I'd even argue most cases. We knew it was an inevitability with the only choices we had.

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